So who is NOT getting Heavensward?!

[Nadirah]

Actually MSQ will give double exp.

Considering it gives *none* ATM, anything over 1 xp is more than double.

Also will give gear apparently. Hopefully nothing unique looking.

[Sapphic]

Two major differences here. Firstly, in WoW the cap is a hard cap. You literally don't even unlock the ability to level past your cap without the expansion. Secondly, in WoW, once the level cap is 'earned' by getting the expansion, you can still earn experience in earlier areas. It's not like all of your new levels had to be earned in expansion areas only.

Why, if you have the expansion, would you want to level in the older zones when you have access to the new zones? Also the amount of XP needed will scale higher from 50-60. So could as easily take 100,000s of mobs in the 2.x zones to even get to 51, then xp from mobs will be less as you level requiring exponentially more kills.

[Lillia]

Considering it gives *none* ATM, anything over 1 xp is more than double.

Also will give gear apparently. Hopefully nothing unique looking.

For us that's true but I meant MSQ is giving double for anyone behind in ARR whose on quest lines that give EXP.

We still got stuff like challenge logs, leves, MSQ, maybe hunting logs, continuations of class quests if I remember correctly, new dungeons, new fates, maybe hunts will give EXP too(?)

Basically a tonnnnnnn of things we can do for our mains again~ (Personally I am pretty excited by this fact.)

We might know other small pieces HW information tonight but it may not contain certain details like leveling. At 7:30 PDT on the 16th the prelim notes are being read for JP players so we may end up having them released for us as well.

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[RainieHana]

More a reason to believe that SE will pull a WoW and throw an instant level 50 in the cash shop after a year or 3 patches into the expansion.

You're srsly the most pessimistic person in this thread, it's disheartening.

[Zanther]

All the people saying they want to finish ARR content before expac. Well.....you better hope coil is lvl synced or be prepared to be booted by lvl 60's doing it for glamours.

Let me reverse that question by asking you which MMO's you've played which have?

Every single subscription MMO ever created since the creation of the genre? Seriously, are you new to mmo's?

[Edellis]

I was really heavy on finishing T13 before HW, but then i realized...why do i even care? Dreadwyrm will be obsolete the moment i step into Ishgard and see "Lv52" requirement gear.

There's no real reason for someone who isn't level 50 to purchase heavensward, and there is zeerooo reason to believe SE will ever allow you to "buy" level 50. This game takes its story pretty seriously.

[Clavaat]

I was really heavy on finishing T13 before HW, but then i realized...why do i even care? Dreadwyrm will be obsolete the moment i step into Ishgard and see "Lv52" requirement gear.

On the contrary, T13 is my only goal left for this game. You're right, the gear won't matter, and that's not what I'm worried about. I just want the closure. Unless they do something like remove Echo, increase ilvl, add a difficultly tier, etc, no one will do BC at all anymore. And that's unfortunate, because there are some legitimately good fights in there.

My point is, I want to beat it while it matters. Then I can say I'm done for real. Granted, if I don't clear it in the next 72ish hours...I'm still dropping XD

Every single subscription MMO ever created since the creation of the genre? Seriously, are you new to mmo's?

To her credit, she's probably new to themepark MMO's. FFXI was not like this. EQ and GW (the original, not 2) were not like this. It's an older style.

[Nadirah]

You're srsly the most pessimistic person in this thread, it's disheartening.

EQ2 added "heroic" characters that start at 85 with 100 AA in like 2011 or 2012, wow didn't until right around Warlods' release announcement in 2014, almost 10 years after release.


I'd expect SE to do it in about three or four expansion packs if at all.

[Natashio]

You're srsly the most pessimistic person in this thread, it's disheartening.

That's so when disappoints hit, I brush them off. :>

[Colorful]

EQ2 added "heroic" characters that start at 85 with 100 AA in like 2011 or 2012, wow didn't until right around Warlods' release announcement in 2014, almost 10 years after release.


I'd expect SE to do it in about three or four expansion packs if at all.

Didn't WoW add a "hero" class in Wrath of the Lich King?