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  1. #121
    Player Eekiki's Avatar
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    Let's ask ourselves some questions:

    Are we all going to be level 50 forever?

    Is the content we currently consider "endgame" *really* the endgame?

    Based on those answers, is your current gear going to be "endgame" gear forever?

    Bear in mind THIS GAME IS UNFINISHED.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    Let's ask ourselves some questions:

    Are we all going to be level 50 forever?

    Is the content we currently consider "endgame" *really* the endgame?

    Based on those answers, is your current gear going to be "endgame" gear forever?

    Bear in mind THIS GAME IS UNFINISHED.
    that's the beauty of MMOs endgame is only endgame for so long. So yes right now I feel we have an endgame point but that point will change come level cap increase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Punainen View Post
    New endgame every 3 months is crap. :/ How about a REAL end game and then lots and lots of inbetween content? People shouldnt HAVE to be at endgame already (or wait 3 months after patch) to get new stuff or do new content. I'm not even all that into hardcore content and I think this sucks. It sucks for both hardcore and casual players alike. Make some INTERMEDIATE content! And don't make everything obsolete every three months!
    If they do it right they can avoid such issues like say with AF gear, each piece could be obtainable from a different dungeon/NM/event
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    Quote Originally Posted by Punainen View Post
    New endgame every 3 months is crap. :/ How about a REAL end game and then lots and lots of inbetween content? People shouldnt HAVE to be at endgame already (or wait 3 months after patch) to get new stuff or do new content. I'm not even all that into hardcore content and I think this sucks. It sucks for both hardcore and casual players alike. Make some INTERMEDIATE content! And don't make everything obsolete every three months!
    I have to admit that in WoW that became too much to bear. As soon as you were heroic-raid'd out with the best stuff possible, it was all utter crap a few months later. And, what's the point of having all that amazing gear, anyway? I can do pointless leves even faster?

    Regardless, this argument is folly. They've thought it through, and decided that the WoW-type "hardcores get it first and get to think they're cool for a month or two before everyone else gets to look cool too" is just fine.

    At least we can change the colors of this stuff, since we will inevitably all look the same.

    If only this game had a social function that wasn't killing monsters. If only.
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  5. #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    Let's ask ourselves some questions:

    Are we all going to be level 50 forever?

    Is the content we currently consider "endgame" *really* the endgame?

    Based on those answers, is your current gear going to be "endgame" gear forever?

    Bear in mind THIS GAME IS UNFINISHED.
    This argument only holds water if they AREN'T dumbing down all content after 3 months and if they were raising the level cap every 3 months. But last I checked, that's not what they're doing. Sounds to me like we'll end up with a crap ton of lvl35 raids that attain you crap tons of lvl50 gear (not even worth getting due to all the BETTER 50 gear introduced in the latest raid), and come a new level cap, one set of raids that stay at 50 for 50 gear. And then we'll repeat.
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  6. #126
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    LOL

    I think it's funny that gear being made easier to obtain after a set period of time is immediately interpreted as said gear becoming obsolete. Would you rather continue running the same dungeon for difficult to obtain gear for a solid year, or have nothing to do for a solid year once you poopsock your way to that gear in a week? They're talking about adding new things to do every three months, and making the old things easier to do once the new content comes out. How is this bad? I just don't get people on this forum lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexis_Arteme View Post
    I have to admit that in WoW that became too much to bear. As soon as you were heroic-raid'd out with the best stuff possible, it was all utter crap a few months later. And, what's the point of having all that amazing gear, anyway? I can do pointless leves even faster?

    Regardless, this argument is folly. They've thought it through, and decided that the WoW-type "hardcores get it first and get to think they're cool for a month or two before everyone else gets to look cool too" is just fine.

    At least we can change the colors of this stuff, since we will inevitably all look the same.

    If only this game had a social function that wasn't killing monsters. If only.
    ohhhhhhh I long for the day to change the green of my solid scale mail ><
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  8. #128
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexis_Arteme View Post
    I have to admit that in WoW that became too much to bear. As soon as you were heroic-raid'd out with the best stuff possible, it was all utter crap a few months later. And, what's the point of having all that amazing gear, anyway? I can do pointless leves even faster?

    Regardless, this argument is folly. They've thought it through, and decided that the WoW-type "hardcores get it first and get to think they're cool for a month or two before everyone else gets to look cool too" is just fine.

    At least we can change the colors of this stuff, since we will inevitably all look the same.

    If only this game had a social function that wasn't killing monsters. If only.
    Yeah, well thats sort of my point. If this game is going to be nothing but instanced raids, I'll quit real fast. I'm already getting bored with it. I get all the latest gear so I can...what? Wait 3 months for another raid just to replace the gear I got 3 months ago? YAWN!! I honestly think we only need so many instanced raids in this game... There's only so many times you can do the same thing (just with a different wallpaper) before you get sick of it. I'd like to see this game have goals that dont necessarily involve gear. Why not...dare I say it...content that I can do for the sake of, I dunno, story??
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  9. #129
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resheph View Post
    LOL

    I think it's funny that gear being made easier to obtain after a set period of time is immediately interpreted as said gear becoming obsolete. Would you rather continue running the same dungeon for difficult to obtain gear for a solid year, or have nothing to do for a solid year once you poopsock your way to that gear in a week? They're talking about adding new things to do every three months, and making the old things easier to do once the new content comes out. How is this bad? I just don't get people on this forum lol.
    if by easier it was an adjustment to the time limit on DH i would say sure, because the time limit encourages speed runs which promote an unhealthy game environment by so many people being excluded by not having the ideal class.

    However, i dont think they should adjust the difficulty of the mobs or bosses at all, they already offer a decent challenge but are from imposable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Punainen View Post
    Yeah, well thats sort of my point. If this game is going to be nothing but instanced raids, I'll quit real fast. I'm already getting bored with it. I get all the latest gear so I can...what? Wait 3 months for another raid just to replace the gear I got 3 months ago? YAWN!! I honestly think we only need so many instanced raids in this game... There's only so many times you can do the same thing (just with a different wallpaper) before you get sick of it. I'd like to see this game have goals that dont necessarily involve gear. Why not...dare I say it...content that I can do for the sake of, I dunno, story??
    Or for that matter, why not some content for new gear that ISN'T an instanced raid?
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