Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
Essentially, every human has a voice in their head that tells them "you've got to have all that cool stuff that everyone else wants - and you've got to have it without anyone else having it before, or even after you" but that is but one source of motivation or desire.

This debate can easily become something about nature vs. nurture, but avoiding that completely we can agree that there are many more avenues of pleasure for people and as an individual, one may find providing, assisting, sharing and/or even servicing another to be much more satisfying than the pursuit of personal gain.

You basically ended up saying the same thing, albeit with much more technical terms Azury.

In conclusion, no person can say that having more than their peers will not make them happy in the slightest without kidding themselves, yes. The fact remains, however, that many people can and will say that the pleasure they get from that is easily surpassed by the pleasure they get from other, less greedy pursuits.
People can say that but in reality helping peers is in fact a method of creating hapiness via having more. If you give someone a present or money when they are broke deep down you're brain is realizing you are able to do that because you are more "elite".

But yes i agree there are many more avenues. My point is this game lacks them completely. If it wants to turn away from elite endgame content it needs to implement other forms of "fun" that outshine the desire to be better.

and nature vs nurture argument is over We know 100% humans are genetically programmed in certain ways that have been essential to our evolution + survival (ex. we get horny and want to reproduce).
we also know 100% that in early childhood the brain develops in different ways depending on external factors including diet, environment, early education, etc. (ex. learning a language at a young age is significantly easier than when you are older due to how neural pathways form)
So we know everyone is a mixture of nature vs nurture.

much of understanding human behaviour now is looking at how different parts of the brain compete or react together in order to form decisions (both consciously and unconsciously)