Quote Originally Posted by Alisi View Post
LOL! Wut? Are you kidding? I've played much bigger MMO games (such as WoW, where trolldom is an art form) and let me tell you that I've never seen queue shenanigans. Ever. Even in LFR, which is so trollilicious that it ain't funny. Overall, the only people who almost always get insta queues are tanks. The fact that you have to wait a hour or two if you miss the group when it pops is big enough of a penalty for DPS. If you really feel like there is a problem then you should be in favor of tank only penalties.
I recall sitting in queue with withdrawn queue pops for over 90 minutes trying to enter CT. It was not just tanks but also crafters or afk dps who failed to accept. The penalty, while harsh, has gone a long way to improve the issue.

Quote Originally Posted by Alisi View Post
So why didn't they just make it so you can't tell if it's in progress and, once actually in the dungeon, give players the 30 minute debuff who quit the group.
The outcry from the community with specific requests for a penalty is why we have one in place. They did remove the actual progress status from the 24 man raids.