Job Coefficient Data Collection

[Dervy]

I'm a few steps closer to figuring out how Jobs scale damage at the baseline, but I need a lot more data to make conclusive statements and at the same time, I want the bulk of the work completed before HW's release in exactly 1 week.

What I'd absolutely love is if in peoples free time, they could parse some data for me and post it over in this thread. I'll be updating this thread when I need data with a different baseline.

Here's the info.

Jobs needed:
Monk
Warrior
Paladin

Stats:
WD: Exactly 51
Determination: Exactly 224
Strength: Varying. Low/High Strength data is great.
Potency of skills parsed: 150
NO buffs, NO stances.

Format:
Job:
WD:
AA_DMG:
Strength:
Action Minimum Damage:
Action Maximum Damage:
AA Minimum Damage:
AA Maximum Damage:

Before posting, you must ensure that your parsed data has reached absolute min/max values. Divide the Max by the Minimum, and the closer your number is to 1.052, the more accurate the data is. You won't be always get exactly 1.0152 due to rounding errors in game, sadly. It takes a good 8-10 minutes to reach those values. Any data will help speed this process up for me a lot. You don't need to spend hours and hours recording spreadsheets worth of numbers, just 10 minutes for one parsed log will do.

[Viridiana]

Before posting, you must ensure that your parsed data has reached absolute min/max values. Divide the Max by the Minimum, and the closer your number is to 1.052, the more accurate the data is. You won't be always get exactly 1.052 due to rounding errors in game, sadly. It takes a good 8-10 minutes to reach those values. Any data will help speed this process up for me a lot. You don't need to spend hours and hours recording spreadsheets worth of numbers, just 10 minutes for one parsed log will do.

I was half way through yelling "I wish!" when I realized we were only talking 150 potency skills. >_>

I'll see what I can get you for WAR. I don't have the 110 weapon for the other two.

Edit:

I assume you don't care about crit damage at all?

Job: WAR
WD: 51
AA_DMG: 57.12
Strength: 355 (don't laugh, I only leveled it for the relic >_> )
Action Minimum Damage: 160
Action Maximum Damage: 177
AA Minimum Damage: 120
AA Maximum Damage: 133

[StouterTaru]

Before posting, you must ensure that your parsed data has reached absolute min/max values. Divide the Max by the Minimum, and the closer your number is to 1.052, the more accurate the data is.

That number should be closer to 1.1, actual damage is +/-5% from average damage.

[Viridiana]

That number should be closer to 1.1, actual damage is +/-5% from average damage.

5% is 1/20. 21/20 divided by 19/20 is 21/19=1.10526. . .

[StouterTaru]

5% is 1/20. 21/20 divided by 19/20 is 21/19=1.10526. . .

Which is closer to 1.1 than 1.052...

[Viridiana]

Which is closer to 1.1 than 1.052...

Fair. Just realized Dervy's missing a 1 after the decimal. Silly Dervy.

[Dervy]

Fair. Just realized Dervy's missing a 1 after the decimal. Silly Dervy.

Which is closer to 1.1 than 1.052...

Thanks for noticing that mistake. Yah, it's 1.1052. Silly me. All these numbers getting to my head, lmao. I did it yesterday as well with my AA model I gave to Pandabearcat. Gave him 0.003 instead of 0.03 and he was wondering why AA damage was in the 90s, lmfao.

[Dervy]

That's cool. Lower is better. I've started on paladin now as well.

Here's something you can laugh about. I just finished off 577-319 in 5-10 increments on both Ninja and Dragoon. Switches to a Bard and only just realised the lowest possible DET I can get is 227, lmao.

Also, I dont believe there is an external coefficient. The Dragoon deals more damage due to a slightly higher STR slope (0.004 difference), but the Ninjas base damage is MUCH higher (2.2 difference). This base value is attributed to the combination of a base damage value, WD and DET.

IF the JP AA test is accurate, where determination scales equally between all 3 jobs, the only difference then is the WD coefficient and/or the base damage value. This is getting really interesting.

[AyaLiz]

3 ST runs later I finally got my hands on a UAT so I can get some warrior data. Glanzfaust and burtgang both have too much det on them so can't get 224 det data with those, good luck finding someone sitting on a novus with no det for one of those jobs.

From 15 minutes or so of hitting a dummy:
Job: Warrior
WD: 51
AA_DMG: 57.12
Strength: 602
Action Minimum Damage: 256
Action Maximum Damage: 283
AA Minimum Damage: 191
AA Maximum Damage: 212

I can go get some more data at less strength if you'd like, the only det I had on my gear is a gryphonskin ring I melded 8 det into for this so I could just unequip some of the other gear to lose strength.

[Viridiana]

good luck finding someone sitting on a novus with no det for one of those jobs.

Shiva weapons would also work, it looks like. Unfortunately the only Shiva weapon I have is BLM. . .