Two reasons why an eviction system is INEVITABLE.

[Aeyis]

I dont know about any one else but even now that im leveling crafting I dont have an inventory issue. Sounds to me like some people just like hording junk they dont nees in which I aplore SE taking advantage of that by bleeding an extra 2usd per retainer per month out of them.

As for the bs meter, Im afraid you win the Golden Potato award Intaki, for being the saltiest person on this forum and the golden mop award for spounting the most total BS in a single thread.

Then you are doing a poor job of crafting. Culinary alone can fill up most of a retainer.
You will come to understand!

[Kaiser-Ace]

Then you are doing a poor job of crafting. Culinary alone can fill up most of a retainer.

I'm focusing on Blacksmith, Weaver, and Carpenter, you tell me how much space I need when I can gather anything I need for free and sell the extra? Same with culinarian. I dont hold onto mats Im not using and since I only craft what I need I dont have surpluss. Sound like you're just a salty horder Aeyis.

As soon as I max my gatherers I'll never neex to pay for basic mats again so why hord them? Seems like you guys are doing it wrong to me.

[StouterTaru]

As soon as I max my gatherers I'll never neex to pay for basic mats again so why hord them? Seems like you guys are doing it wrong to me.

Doing daily level GC supply missions, I keep all the mats on a page in the company chest, except the ones that can be bought from the FC house NPC or stacked (I also keep food and poitions stacks premade). About 50 spaces of inventory and I can round up mats and craft all 8 in under 10 minutes. Figuring out all the base mats I need and running around gathering them would take close to an hour.

But you are right with culinarian, there's no reason to keep every single ingredient for every recipe. Round up what you need to craft a pile of the item, craft several at once, 1 inventory spot taken up.

[Aeyis]

I'm focusing on Blacksmith, Weaver, and Carpenter, you tell me how much space I need when I can gather anything I need for free and sell the extra? Same with culinarian. I dont hold onto mats Im not using and since I only craft what I need I dont have surpluss. Sound like you're just a salty horder Aeyis.

As soon as I max my gatherers I'll never neex to pay for basic mats again so why hord them? Seems like you guys are doing it wrong to me.

I only hoard what I might need. On top of that are also items such as materia, which can quickly fill up slots. Incidentally there's a lot of items that are dropped by monsters and as such cant be farmed easily/fast in larger amounts.

Theres also to consider the fact that you need some amount of space for creating order in your inventory, incidentally.


From your posts I take it you just dont craft much. :P


There's also as pointed out above, the sheer amount of time you would waste if you would gather every single item every time you need it.
I tried that once, farm my own Blue Yarzon Legs. Then I quickly realised it would be a better idea to simply buy them from the mb when they are low and stack up on them. (took several minutes just to get one drop)



Retainers are all nice and dandy, if you have the time to for waiting when you need large amounts of an item.
Most basic mats are typically bought off the mb by large scale crafters, and as such youll need room in your inventory to store them.
(or for example from the beastribe vendors)

[Kaiser-Ace]

I only hoard what I might need. On top of that are also items such as materia, which can quickly fill up slots. Incidentally there's a lot of items that are dropped by monsters and as such cant be farmed easily/fast in larger amounts.

Theres also to consider the fact that you need some amount of space for creating order in your inventory, incidentally.


From your posts I take it you just dont craft much. :P


There's also as pointed out above, the sheer amount of time you would waste if you would gather every single item every time you need it.

I've only recently started to craft with any effort. So basically what you're saying is, that lack of inventory is the fate of all crafters then? How lovely. /sarchasim.

[Yeldir]

HeybYeldirngood to see you're still lurking around your post.

What'd you think of yhe Subscripton based Primium Houseing idea a fewnof us came up with?

I have mixed feelings about it. On one hand, it would provide some relief to current and future population stresses - but a few worrisome questions spring to mind.

What happens when you stop paying for your premium housing? Will you keep your lot? If you do, we'll be right back where we started. If you're evicted, and non-premium based housing doesn't evict you for non-payment, we've created a system where the premium, real money housing has a glaring inferiority to the normal lots. It would have to be way, way cooler in execution, appearance, convenience (and maybe even function) than normal housing to overcome such a handicap.

It also raises a certain ethical concern - not, like, "starving children in africa" ethical, or "mcdonalds wages ruining lives" ethical. Think "that-guy-on-tumblr-called-me-freaky" mild ethical irritation.
I'm trying to say it seems a tiny bit unfair to new players, having to pay extra for what was supposed to be part of the deal. This is especially true if the premium housing evicts tenants for non-payment, while the regular housing does not.

[Kaiser-Ace]

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I did have a simmiler thought my self. Though I reasoned an extra cost might deture most people from choosing that option It would be unfair for only primium players to suffer penalties.

So even if Primium Housing was a thing we are ultimatly back at square one of how to ifentify permanent abandonment and then how to adress it afterwards.

So it seems we've still yet to find a viable permanent solution for the time being.

I do believe how ever, that late 3.x may be when they say enough is enough and crack down hard on the abandoned plot issue.

[Maxipep]

Don't panic, it won't be long before you can buy a house from the cash shop

[Kaiser-Ace]

Don't panic, it won't be long before you can buy a house from the cash shop

Well, I wont be doing it even if it is added, but I think from a monetary point of view its still income. so hey why not?

[Tracy1987]

just an idea

get rid of private homes and make them into larger ones for fc's, make private rooms bigger and with gardening avaliablity and separete permissions controlled by the person who bought the room

allow a minimum time before applications to a FC are automatically acepted this would allow ppl to join a dead fc and revive it see next point

automatically promote to a special rank (when leaders of a fc have been inactive for a certain period of time) that is able to carryon leading a fc without destroying what has previously been made ie can only add or move items in a fc house

all the ppl who currently own a house is given a refund of the amount they paid for the plot all items are avaliable from one of the npcs