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  1. #71
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    ElHeggunte's Avatar
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    Naiyah Nanaya
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    After reading some of the responses supporting the OP, I'm curious if you guys would be okay with a Paladin having a macro that says "PRAISE THE SUN!!" with some random sound and a big ascii sun every time he used Flash. Every. Single. Time. Or a similar macro for Provoke or any other spell or ability that's a regular part of a class's toolkit. I'm guessing no because that would be annoying as shit, right? That's how most people feel about text macros. They're pointless and annoying, but tolerable if it isn't something that gets spammed.

    If it's a skill that you find yourself using more than once or twice in a duty or whose use doesn't really need to be conveyed to the rest of the group it has no business being in a text macro. If you absolutely insist on doing so anyway at least be wiling to change it if someone asks. Don't just tell them off or ignore them like the OP and then get pissed when they rightfully remove you from the group.
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  2. #72
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    Raeletta's Avatar
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    Raeletta Delqit
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    After reading some of the responses supporting the OP, I'm curious if you guys would be okay with a Paladin having a macro that says "PRAISE THE SUN!!" with some random sound and a big ascii sun every time he used Flash. Every. Single. Time. Or a similar macro for Provoke or any other spell or ability that's a regular part of a class's toolkit. I'm guessing no because that would be annoying as shit, right? That's how most people feel about text macros. They're pointless and annoying, but tolerable if it isn't something that gets spammed.

    If it's a skill that you find yourself using more than once or twice in a duty or whose use doesn't really need to be conveyed to the rest of the group it has no business being in a text macro. If you absolutely insist on doing so anyway at least be wiling to change it if someone asks. Don't just tell them off or ignore them like the OP and then get pissed when they rightfully remove you from the group.
    Were it in /say, no, I'd not give two craps.

    That's said, as much as flash is bright, Hallowed Ground is where the power is at, that'd be suited to a quote more. Hell that's one of my few in-party macros, an <se.8>x2 A {Hallowed Ground up} and "Assuming it works".
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  3. #73
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    It's bullying to ask you to change an unnecessary verbal macro so that it doesn't spam the chatlog? And it's something worth filing a report over?
    Kick function got abused
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  4. #74
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    Anapingofness's Avatar
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    Bisera Cecilina
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    Adamantoise
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    I understand that RP macros can get annoying. Although, to be fair *ANY* macro when used repeatedly can get pretty annoying, even if they are one of he relevant ones.
    However, I think that the party overreacted and that they shouldn't have kicked the OP.
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  5. #75
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    T'erra Branford
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anapingofness View Post
    I understand that RP macros can get annoying. Although, to be fair *ANY* macro when used repeatedly can get pretty annoying, even if they are one of he relevant ones.
    However, I think that the party overreacted and that they shouldn't have kicked the OP.
    I think its safe to assume, anytime we here a sob story like this where the party who cant defend themselves seems to have overreacted badly. That we may not be hearing the whole thing. Even so it could have been something as simple as they had run a dungeon right before with someone spamming that big **** dps macro, or that scholar one about touching their fairy until, well, you get sprayed with heals. Both only used by people we can make a different assumption aboutm
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  6. #76
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    Primal Ishtar
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    I see people using macro's all the time but they dont get vote kicked. Kick function got abused.
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  7. #77
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    Knot Destroyer
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    Asura
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    Using macro on every skill is really annoyed, especially when people set their Party chat sound enabled.
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  8. #78
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    Chen Kotomi
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    Adamantoise
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    Archer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kusanagi7 View Post
    I see people using macro's all the time but they dont get vote kicked. Kick function got abused.
    it depends on relevance of the macro
    Hallowed Ground/Holmgang? Important for raiding, as it tells the healers what's going on with the tank for the next few seconds.
    Provoke: tells the group, especially the healers, who has aggro on what mob. Essential for tank switching.
    Bard songs: if the bard doesn't say when they're doing it, the party will usually spam with "SONG PLOX SONG PLOX!" so it doesn't affect anything.
    Benediction: not always necessary to have a macro with text, but it helps to know when it's on CD.
    Berserk: Since this one ends with a debuff that can cause issues, it's a good one to report.
    Virus? Pretty necessary since 2 users can use by mistake
    Raise? Seriously, no one should be debating why this is important.
    Pulling macros can help a lot too, especially for ninjas and bards, who have a lot of cooldowns and abilities to use before the fight starts.

    Pretty much anything else is unnecessary. If it's just an attack that does damage or a CD that boosts damage/mitigation, it's not all that important.
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  9. #79
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    C'rysta Zeith
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    Sargatanas
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    Archer Lv 90
    I think it’s fine if you want to RP in a dungeon, or want to announce which skill you are about to use, but just don’t go overboard with it. The ones i find annoying, are the ones that direct your attention to the chat box for something that is not important and/or happening frequently.

    If you want to use ASCII art, displaying a buff piglet greeting the entire group, that’s fine. But it’s annoying if someone uses ASCII art like flipping their target off, while using provoke. Every single time… Or show a piggy shooting a bullet from a sniper rifle shouting “BOOM! HEADSHOT!” whenever they land a critical hit. Every single time… (Yes, i’ve seen those. Mostly while farming light for my Relic.)

    The ones that do annoy me, use sound effects like the <se.1> (which is the same sound as the /tell). My mind is triggered to read the chat whenever i hear that sound, because i’m expecting to read a /tell sent to me when it does. I’m trying to perform to the best of my abilities as a member of the group, so i want to focus on doing my job right.

    A big no-no when using macro’s like these, is to use them in /shout and/or use foul language ridicule someone else when you are f.i. Raising them.

    In short, it’s fine to use text macros, but don’t overuse them, or ridicule/insult others with them. People can take offense of them, so if someone asks that you refrain from using them, it would be very considerate of you if you would do so.
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  10. #80
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    Cerys Fairbairn
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    Tonberry
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    After reading some of the responses supporting the OP, I'm curious if you guys would be okay with a Paladin having a macro that says "PRAISE THE SUN!!" with some random sound and a big ascii sun every time he used Flash. Every. Single. Time. Or a similar macro for Provoke or any other spell or ability that's a regular part of a class's toolkit. I'm guessing no because that would be annoying as shit, right? That's how most people feel about text macros. They're pointless and annoying, but tolerable if it isn't something that gets spammed.

    If it's a skill that you find yourself using more than once or twice in a duty or whose use doesn't really need to be conveyed to the rest of the group it has no business being in a text macro. If you absolutely insist on doing so anyway at least be wiling to change it if someone asks. Don't just tell them off or ignore them like the OP and then get pissed when they rightfully remove you from the group.
    I had that happen to me
    A paladin with a flash macro including sound effects.
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