Relic weapons with additional effects? *rant*

[ElHeggunte]

That's not the reason why this wouldn't happen.

They've said it ages ago, they don't want to over complicate the game for the audience they're trying to attract. I believe that's also why BLMs skill aren't named all fancy and, instead.. just got called Fire, Fire II, etc.

Sort of. Yes, it was partly done to help prevent confusion, but the primary reason the localization team for the NA client decided to use roman numerals for spells is for the sake of consistency and clarity. In the JP client the spells still have the -ra, -ga, -aga naming convention, but so do other items such as materia (Materia, Materira, Materida, Materiga, etc.). The problem is there was no consistency between everything that used that naming convention (the -ga spells corresponded to a different rank than the -ga materia, for example) which could easily lead to confusion, so they simply gave everything a roman numeral instead.

I do miss my -ga spells, but given how it was before I can understand why they changed it. I'm also glad they changed everything so it's consistent across the board, instead of only changing bits and pieces.

[reillyblair]

That's not the reason why this wouldn't happen.

They've said it ages ago, they don't want to over complicate the game for the audience they're trying to attract. I believe that's also why BLMs skill aren't named all fancy and, instead.. just got called Fire, Fire II, etc.

well actually they got fire 2 instead of fira etc cause they thought the names would confuse people that are new to the series

and if they are still invested in this relic weapon why are they having a completly different relic in HW

[Caiera]

if they are still invested in this relic weapon why are they having a completly different relic in HW

I thought this, makes me wonder why I bothered with relic at all now

[randysquirrel]

They've said it ages ago, they don't want to over complicate the game for the audience they're trying to attract. I believe that's also why BLMs skill aren't named all fancy and, instead.. just got called Fire, Fire II, etc.

I've never really agreed with SE's reasoning behind this. It often has the complete opposite effect, I've seen some newbs spamming fire III over and over, its naming convention giving the impression it is outright better than fire I. If they had the -ra, -ga suffices, it would give the impression they are completely differently spells, for completely different scenarios (exactly what they are), and newbs would have no reason to think -ga was better than fire I; just a different spell

[VirusChris]

I've never really agreed with SE's reasoning behind this. It often has the complete opposite effect, I've seen some newbs spamming fire III over and over, its naming convention giving the impression it is outright better than fire I. If they had the -ra, -ga suffices, it would give the impression they are completely differently spells, for completely different scenarios (exactly what they are), and newbs would have no reason to think -ga was better than fire I; just a different spell

I can relate with that. First time I saw the names of those spells I assumed that Fire II and Fire III was simply stronger versions of Fire at a higher level, but it wasn't until I got to those levels as a BLM that I found out it was simply different spells with their own effects instead of a stronger form of the first spell.

[Souljacker]

That's not the reason why this wouldn't happen.

They've said it ages ago, they don't want to over complicate the game for the audience they're trying to attract. I believe that's also why BLMs skill aren't named all fancy and, instead.. just got called Fire, Fire II, etc.

Right, because no one who ever picked up a FF game in the last twenty years could possibly have understood that Firaga is different than Fire because it's area of effect. It made WAYYYY more sense to use numbers because fire I is single target, and Fire II is AoE, and then wow Fire III is back to single target. That's soooo much easier than Fire I and II being single and Firaga I being AoE.

The localization team for this game is a joke, really.

[Zfz]

I would prefer additional visual effects that we can choose from. The Relic stat-wise should not be too special when compared to the raiding drop weapon. They target different types of players so you never want the Relic to have better appeal to raider than raid drops, meaning useful special effects should not be specifically limited to the Relic.

[Caraway]

The Relic stat-wise should not be too special when compared to the raiding drop weapon. They target different types of players so you never want the Relic to have better appeal to raider than raid drops, meaning useful special effects should not be specifically limited to the Relic.

Except, ya know, it already is special compared to the raiding drop weapon and for most jobs better. But okay. Think that ship's sailed a long time ago too.

[Zfz]

Except, ya know, it already is special compared to the raiding drop weapon and for most jobs better. But okay. Think that ship's sailed a long time ago too.

Not sure what the point is mentioning this. The point of talking about ideas is for future designs, no?

[Zenaku]

They talk about this last E3 they said when you get your one of your final wep would have effect. But now it seem like 2.0 relic and 3.0 relic are something new all together.