How to deal with this kind of friend?

[Hypie]

Having the best gear come from raids is not a defense for buying gil, and if you honestly believe this I think you are capable of buying it yourself.

I believe it because i give a Damn about the Marketplace. Like i said it's the Kind of Place where some Wall Street Students use their Time learning how to rip off Ppl. So they can do it better later in Real Life.

The only one who's getting hurt are the lazy Players, who srsly buy Gear from the Marketplace *laughs* Or the crazy ones in a "Progress Guild" who have this "we need to kill this boss TODAY" Attitude.

You know the only Time i accessed the Marketplace was when i buyd the base Axe for the ilvl 80 Relic.

And no i don't buy Gil...what for? There is nothing outstanding i could only gain with massive Dump of Gil....

[Mugiawara]

So you're basically saying that I should let him cheat and destroy the in-game economy even further?

It looks like you knew you should of talked to him but won't. Because in your OP you said you left him alone.
For the sake of the people you should really talk to him.

Still, why can't he come to your server and play with you? o_o;
Instead he's buying Gil at level 1...why? Did you even tell him Gil isn't even THAT important in this game?

[Tuathaa]

I would tell him to stop and remind him he could get banned loose the gil and his money but I wouldn't report him.
It's kind of hard to get upset with gill buyers when the game developer has no interest in dealing with gil sellers.

[Gallus]

If you know players who cheat (buy gil, bot) and do nothing about it, you are just as bad. We are all playing a game, those things count as cheating, because its not directly affecting some of you, you dont think its an issue, or its their choice. .

It directly affects everyone, don't fool yourself lol. The difference is that most people (I believe) have better things to worry about than reporting random strangers (let alone friends) on the internet for not following their same standards/principles. I too get RMT spammed and I too get friend requests from WTB'LOLGIL, so what? I delete them and keep playing, yet you classify this as harassment and some peoplemake hundreds of topics in the general forum claiming how much of an annoyance it is. Honestly, what is with this ridiculous sensitiveness about everything potentially affecting your "experience", "gameplay" or "life" in general? when a mosquito makes it into your room at Summer, do you go to the town hall and complain at the mayor for nothing being done with the insects in your area?

Relationships are already a very complicated matter, and we could discuss about what revolves around them for hours and hours, but things like empathy, tolerance and loyalty (when they prove to be good friends even in those bad moments) are very important when establishing these relationships. If you are going to ditch every potential friend because one of your moral standards didn't quite meet with one of them in some specific area of some specific topic, I think you'd do well in reconsidering this mentality.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

In game or real life, I stand by my ethics and morals. I'd talk to my friend - and not in the nice way - and make it clear if they didn't stop, I'd take them down. And if they didn't believe me, I'd do it without hesitation.

Why? Because no matter what, it DOES involve me. From the moment I'm made aware of something wrong being done, I'm involved. Does it warrant me policing the situation? Not always, but if there's even a slim chance that that person's illegal activity/rule breaking/etc. may negatively affect me as well, I would bring down the hammer myself. BECAUSE we're friends. Some of the more morally gray folk here might not understand, and that's fine. I'm a lot more gray than I let on. . . but I know which side I'd rather be on at the end of the day. And friendship has NEVER been a free pass to do wrong with me.

Sure sure, "it's just a game". Yup. And buying gil is "just" a violation of its terms of service. This game world doesn't make the people that thrive in it - or their sense of right and wrong - any less real, unless by disagreeing with this statement you admit to completely checking your morals at the virtual door and showing everyone who you really are in the dark?

[Cirgellon]

Relationships are already a very complicated matter, and we could discuss about what revolves around them for hours and hours, but things like empathy, tolerance and loyalty (when they prove to be good friends even in those bad moments) are very important when establishing these relationships. If you are going to ditch every potential friend because one of your moral standards didn't quite meet with one of them in some specific area of some specific topic, I think you'd do well in reconsidering this mentality.

I don't see anyone claiming that he should ditch the friendship. That's being way too overdramatic for so mething that you just said doesn't really matter.

[GenJoe]

People on these forums seem to have a very one dimensional idea about what relationships are, and expect a friend to be ethical in all aspects.
Perhaps it's the social awkwardness everybody talks about on the forums or stereotype about the gamers in general, but you need to be flexible and accept what you can't change about people.

First of all, this is a game we're playing, our characters may be a paragon of virtue but irl, nobody's perfect, everyone has their own share of flaws. Hell, the very field of Ethics wouldn't even exist if we could agree upon what is right and wrong.


If you've lived for 20, 30, or however many years you have and you still expect your friends to be perfect, you have a very odd expectation of reality. It's true you can and should push your friends to do the right thing, but if you can't accept your friend for who they are, then maybe it's time to reconsider your own values and how you stand by them (i.e. are you the type to push your own idea of morals down other people's throats?) or to get a new friend who better aligns with your own code of ethics. But honestly, you're not going to get much by having a bunch of friends all of whom think the same way.

I don't see anyone claiming that he should ditch the friendship. That's being way too overdramatic for so mething that you just said doesn't really matter.

It's an inevitable consequence of reporting the friend though, he may or may not find out about it. But if it was me, I wouldn't report my friend without first telling him that I'm going to, to do otherwise is just too cowardly and I believe my friend of years would deserve better than that from me. So once your friend finds out, it's not going to be easy keeping the friendship, at least while you're still playing FF14, he will not be joining you.

I have friends for whom I've previously ruined games, either by progressing through the content too quick and making them feel rushed or making a bunch of gold and just feeding them the gold so they don't have to do any of the grind.. It does affect friendships, though I've never lost one over it, at least while I'm still playing the game, it's hard to interact with him because we're no longer playing the same game together.

[Cirgellon]

You weren't very good friends if that ruins your friendship. I don't get the part where you talk about not telling them though. They wouldn't even know at that point. SE sure isn't going to out you. Me? I'd tell my friend and then make fun of him for getting in trouble. He'd insult me, call me a dick, and we would laugh about it. That goes for all of my friends. I guess I just don't make friends with sensetive people though.

[Woggers]

I think you're a snitch and a real friend wouldn't care and mind his own business.

Wow glad I'm not friends with you. And you're completely wrong. A REAL friend will help out their friend in trouble, not ignore it. Lmao...

[Gallus]

Me? I'd tell my friend and then make fun of him for getting in trouble. He'd insult me, call me a dick, and we would laugh about it.

"We would laugh about it?", You and who else? More friends? What's going to happen when you have a problem (you'll always have problems) with one of the friends you were laughing with? Are you going to ditch that person too...and then proceed to laugh about him...with some other friends? You do realize you'll end up either laughing alone or with people that do not care much about you right?