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    I hated that NPC's only repaired to 75%.. especially given how much they charge for repairs of high level equipment. You HAD to find a crafter to do your repairs otherwise you'd be seriously ripping yourself off (MUCH higher cost for less repair..). This way there is at least a point to having repair NPCs. +1 to 99%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galka75 View Post
    I just read yesterday on a Reinheart translate about yoshi-P is planning to put NPC for repairs on all camps for a cheap fee. In xample a metria g5 will cost 3,5k and a repair of high rank equipment will cost 5k. Until here i think all is ok.

    But 99% repired item from NPC is not too much? I mean. You will quit repair importation on crafters. I realice crafters will be need it still to rpair till 100% to sell or trade and item. But is nt enough encorage to hold repair system on crafters. I thnk the 75% of repair from NPC will be good. I know you want to drawn gild from server. But if the npc repair dont work for that until now was for the prices and the lack of rings repairs etc. So. Whit that solved therea no need to 99% repIr npc. And whit the adittion of nit penalty on armor till 0%. Even more needless.
    If I were you I'd be more concerned about his wanting to make repairs no longer craft specific...
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    Repairs need to be as hassle free as possible or it will drive people away. repairs do not get good amounts of money, do not make crafts jobs more/less useful, does not add/subtract individuality or identity, and is not and should not be an important/sole reason for people to take up crafting and it sure is not a fun system. Crafts should be about making money and makng gear that other crafts can not make and that you can not find anywhere esle. (that is individuality and identity). THAT is where SE should make craft classes focus on. The materia system is a step in the right dirction and so is the new repair system with NPCs and such.

    The only thing this game should be worring about is making it fun and filled with content. Not timesinks and annoying systems.
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    What they should do is have NPCs offer 75% repair and 90% (not 99%) repair options and increase the price of 90% repairs to take into account the skill level of the DoH required.

    It is very time consuming to level DoH and that should be taken into account.

    If they do implement this change to 99%, I'd like to see the SP for repairs increased to a minimum 500sp per repair.

    It is easy for players to get their equipment repaired. It is that they are too cheap to offer a decent reward. I see many people offering 1 gil or ONE dark matter for repair fee when their probably sitting on over 4 million gil.

    The fact is that you should offer at least one leves worth of gil above the cost of materials for a repair.
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    Last edited by Zoltan; 09-16-2011 at 03:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoltan View Post
    What they shold do is have NPCs offer 75% repair and 90% (not 99%) repair options and increase the price of 90% repairs to take into account the skill level of the DoH required.

    It is very time consuming to level DoH and that should be taken into account.

    If they do implement this change to 99%, I'd like to see the SP for repairs increased to a minimum 500sp per repair.

    It is easy for players to get their equipment repaired. It is that they are too cheap to offer a decent reward. I see many people offering 1 gil or ONE dark matter for repair fee when their probably sitting on over 4 million gil.

    The fact is that you should offer at least one leves worth of gil above the cost of materials for a repair.
    Honestly if they're offering the repair at cost, there shouldn't be any problem doing it. You're losing nothing. Even then offering 500-1000 gil additional on top of the item is acceptable. It really depends on how fast you want your equipment repaired. However with the new system, if you want it repaired by a crafter the reward needs to be less than the NPC cost if you're to save any money on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    Honestly if they're offering the repair at cost, there shouldn't be any problem doing it. You're losing nothing. Even then offering 500-1000 gil additional on top of the item is acceptable. It really depends on how fast you want your equipment repaired. However with the new system, if you want it repaired by a crafter the reward needs to be less than the NPC cost if you're to save any money on it.
    It might not be a problem for you, but I have a big problem with it. The same prople probably don't believe in tipping their wait staff.

    Every hour of synthesis I have to pay the NPC 2000 gil for synthesis support. Farming materials and crystals takes hours, days, weeks and months to level toe DoH job in order to be able to repair gear.

    If it's "not a problem", then I suggest that they go level DoH themselves because I'm not repairing their gear for one dark matter reward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoltan View Post
    It might not be a problem for you, but I have a big problem with it. The same prople probably don't believe in tipping their wait staff.

    Every hour of synthesis I have to pay the NPC 2000 gil for synthesis support. Farming materials and crystals takes hours, days, weeks and months to level toe DoH job in order to be able to repair gear.

    If it's "not a problem", then I suggest that they go level DoH themselves because I'm not repairing their gear for one dark matter reward.
    You realize this is a game and not a job right? What ever happened to just being a decent person and helping people. I MUST MAKE MONEY OR GAIN SOMETHING OR I WONT DO IT!!!! Just terrible, terrible terrible terrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chain View Post
    You realize this is a game and not a job right? What ever happened to just being a decent person and helping people. I MUST MAKE MONEY OR GAIN SOMETHING OR I WONT DO IT!!!! Just terrible, terrible terrible terrible.
    No I agree with Zoltan, simply based on the fact that ALOT of players in game treat you like you owe them the repairs as a crafter. As if you put all that time in to level it and now you owe the rest of the world something on top......

    To carry that further, I see 3 names here so far that I know for a fact, from experience, offer nothing to you for your service of repairing there equipment.
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    Zoltan:

    Players should not be ranking DoH to just repair gear. This argument that "I deserve this much for repairs because I ranked up DoH" is going away. Repairing at cost should be good enough because the gil will be in making and selling items and attaching materia. Not making repairs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    Zoltan:

    Players should not be ranking DoH to just repair gear. This argument that "I deserve this much for repairs because I ranked up DoH" is going away. Repairing at cost should be good enough because the gil will be in making and selling items and attaching materia. Not making repairs.
    Maybe, maybe not. Planned changes are subject to change.

    Repairing at cost is not good enough. It's BS. If you're cheap, then enjoy wearing your damaged gear. Maybe you'll be able to drop it instead of selling it when you're done with it.

    I have no tolerance for people who do not offer a decent reward to someone who spent a long time working on a DoH job.

    If you want to take the opposite opinion, that is your right. It may not be correct, but you have the right to that opinion.

    Just say: "I'm cheap" and go about your business.
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