Immersion, The Facts & Fiction

[Caliburn]

Everyone's ruining my immersion!!! Get out of my world!

What is this keyboard in front of me? I don't feel like I'm really writing anything! Ahhhh immersion!!

[viion]

Immersion can be whatever the fk immerses me.

[Konachibi]

Immersion can be whatever the fk immerses me.

And Viion sums the entire thing up in just 36 letters. It's as simple as that (b'.')b

[Caliburn]

Immersion can be whatever the fk immerses me.

This is going on my signature if you don't mind.

[Konachibi]

This is going on my signature if you don't mind.

NEWS UPDATE:

Konachibi's next new signature will feature the word 'immersion' in it somewhere. Stay tuned to next week's show for further developments.

[Belial]

I find it cute when people try to argue english definitions. Thank you all for the entertainment.

[Konachibi]

I find it cute when people try to argue english definitions. Thank you all for the entertainment.

No problem, glad to give a giggle (b'.')b

Which reminds me, usually the biggest misunderstanding as to the use of a word comes from British people talking to American people. Americans just have this way of making words mean what they... don't mean. Y'know?

Soccer? What's that? No, I watch football! That's not football, you're watching Rugby!

[Lyndis]

This is probably the worst immersion thread ever.

I'm sorry Konachibi but most of your argument has little to do with the definition or the understanding of immersion.

No game can just be judged as a whole. That's why when people try to give a game a rating they often break it down into things like: Sound, graphics, gameplay, etc.

Now as for immersion in a game and what contributes to it... Almost every aspect that developers create for a game IS meant to add immersion to the game. That does not mean it is successful, and sometimes developers will sacrifice immersion for convience with the user interface. For example, lets look at those categories that I mentioned people rate games on. Sound, music and sound effects add to the idea that you are inside the world, adding to immersion. Graphics, aesthetics and effects help a player understand and feel like they are a part of a real fantasy world. Gameplay, things like combat and gear customization is made so that you can feel like you are a clever and powerful warrior and you can be this in your own style and preferences, like you would be able to if you actually lived in that world.

So I've picked three INDIVIDUAL things that contribute to a game and they all have to do with immersion. So it may be true that the entire game is made up of things to increase immersion (which is why immersion is so important) but that does not mean that certain aspects of the game can't be fixed to increase or decrease the effect of the immersion. Simply because you say THE ENTIRE GAME IS THE ENTIRE GAME AND WE MUST LOOK AT IT AS A WHOLE, does not change that the game is made up of numerous aspects to make it a whole.

[Konachibi]

This is probably the worst immersion thread ever.

I'm sorry Konachibi but most of your argument has little to do with the definition or the understanding of immersion.

No game can just be judged as a whole. That's why when people try to give a game a rating they often break it down into things like: Sound, graphics, gameplay, etc.

Now as for immersion in a game and what contributes to it... Almost every aspect that developers create for a game IS meant to add immersion to the game. That does not mean it is successful, and sometimes developers will sacrifice immersion for convience with the user interface. For example, lets look at those categories that I mentioned people rate games on. Sound, music and sound effects add to the idea that you are inside the world, adding to immersion. Graphics, aesthetics and effects help a player understand and feel like they are a part of a real fantasy world. Gameplay, things like combat and gear customization is made so that you can feel like you are a clever and powerful warrior and you can be this in your own style and preferences, like you would be able to if you actually lived in that world.

So I've picked three INDIVIDUAL things that contribute to a game and they all have to do with immersion. So it may be true that the entire game is made up of things to increase immersion (which is why immersion is so important) but that does not mean that certain aspects of the game can't be fixed to increase or decrease the effect of the immersion. Simply because you say THE ENTIRE GAME IS THE ENTIRE GAME AND WE MUST LOOK AT IT AS A WHOLE, does not change that the game is made up of numerous aspects to make it a whole.

Which is... exactly what I said.

Anyways, this thread needs more Grandia: Linkables

You wanna talk immersion, go play that all the way through first, then you'll truly know what it means to be immersed in a video game

[Lyndis]

Which is... exactly what I said.

Anyways, this thread needs more Grandia: Linkables

You wanna talk immersion, go play that all the way through first, then you'll truly know what it means to be immersed in a video game

I'm very sorry if I misunderstood you. But I got confused when you said things like the mini map cannot decrease the immersion. Mini-maps don't spawn out of no where into our sight. This isn't the biggest thing that decreases immersion due to it being well designed. Every aspect of a game, even a small part of the UI can decrease immersion, especially when it completely defies real world logic in a way we've never seen before and can not be explained through lore.

Please excuse all my post... I'm going to take a break now ^^;