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    Quote Originally Posted by Griffeth View Post
    Xero and Dervy do we need any more turret numbers for MCH? What else are we looking for?
    Oh hey. Unfortunately Dervy got perma banned from the forums. I think he has the DET values sorted out for the turret, but if you feel like doing some crit testing for the turret that might be useful, since I believe he found that SMN pets scale a little different with crit than players do. (or they have a lower base crit, I can't remember)

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    On another note, I don't know if it's been discussed but Empereal Arrow on Bard is interesting because it's a 15s Recast GCD skill. Which when applying the Skill Speed stat gives you a very good idea of how much 1 point effects the GCD/Recast of skills.

    i.e. with +192 SKP I have a 1.46s Recast but Emperial Arrow is 14.65s Recast so you can see a further decimal point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    Oh hey. Unfortunately Dervy got perma banned from the forums.
    WHAT!? OMG one of the best and hardest working theorycrafters in our game!...
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    Last edited by T2teddy; 09-17-2015 at 05:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    i.e. with +192 SKP I have a 1.46s Recast but Emperial Arrow is 14.65s Recast so you can see a further decimal point.
    Decided to actually look into this since it is so fun wasting Gil on different combinations of Skill Speed. (guess it's not a waste if it's for science )

    But here is what I got using the Empyreal Arrow as a guide for SPD scaling.

    354 SPD = 15s
    361 = 14.98s + 7
    368 = 14.97s + 7
    375 = 14.95s + 7
    382 = 14.94 + 7
    387 = 14.92 + 5 (0.2 Drop)
    394 = 14.91 + 7
    401 = 14.89 + 7
    408 = 14.88 + 7
    415 = 14.86 + 7
    422 = 14.85 + 5 (0.1 Drop)


    Goes in an alternating pattern of 7,7,7,7,5 as well as 0.01, 0.02 as well as if the 5 lands on a spot where it would drop by 0.02 then it will.


    Interesting thing about the GCD rounding
    386 = 2.49s GCD
    387 = 2.48s GCD (14.92/15 = 2.48667s GCD)

    So the point at which it rounds down the GCD is pretty high. Possibly as soon as it reaches the next whole number

    Edited:

    Another interesting point is that when the cycle repeats itself after 66 SPD, it is a 0.99% decrease in GCD

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    Examples of how the SPD stat has exponential gains.
    (60 Seconds)
    2.5s GCD = 24 Attacks
    2.25s GCD (10% reduction in GCD) = 26.67 Attacks (11.5% increase in attacks)
    2s GCD (20% reduction in GCD) = 30 Attacks (25% increase in attacks)
    1.75s GCD (30% reduction in GCD) = 34.29 (42.875 % increase in attacks)
    1.5s GCD (40% reduction in GCD) = 40 (66.67% increase in attacks)

    So if that first 66 SPD is ~1% damage increase, then by a 2s GCD you are sitting at an average of 53 SPD per 1% WS damage increase.
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    Last edited by Judge_Xero; 09-26-2015 at 12:29 PM.
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