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    Hustensaft's Avatar
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    Gyokuro Sencha
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kenji1134 View Post
    I suppose the ultimate goal will be to find the form of the damage formula, rather than the coefficients.
    If you want to find the formula - you just can't start at X, you have to start at zero, i.e. break your weapon, reset your 35 bonus points, write down AA, ability and heal potency for all classes and compare them. Then try to to find models and count how many you need to fit all of it. (In 2.0 one linear model did predict AA, heal, ability, and spell damage values for fully naked jobs over STR/DEX/MND)

    Fun fact: Taking my level 50 warrior - fully naked auto-attack values are actually 20% higher in 3.0 compared to 2.0 (no - it's not maim)

    From there you go by adding WD, Primary or DET.
    Then combine either of those.
    Then combine all of them.

    We already know the game straight up isn't telling us about the real base value of stats like crit and skill speed, so how this bodes for Determination is a mystery to me
    True, true!

    Since obviously CRT and SS do nothing at their respective base value, the best thing to assume with practically no way to prove it is that STR and DET do stuff linearly from 0 to StatValue.
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    Last edited by Hustensaft; 08-03-2015 at 11:19 PM.

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    SunnyHirose's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Sunny Hirose
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Hustensaft View Post
    Since obviously CRT and SS do nothing at their respective base value, the best thing to assume with practically no way to prove it is that STR and DET do stuff linearly from 0 to StatValue.
    Well, we can do testing at more than one level (I intend to try, but I do want my subjobs leveled eventually, so...).

    Other people who seem to have tried it came away with the conclusion that STR scales from zero and DET scales from the base value, FWIW, but it remains to be seen what the base value of DET even means, and whether it really is 218.
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