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    Player
    Twilite's Avatar
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    Miranda Madison
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    I had a tank like that. When she asked me to kick her I just began to do the Manderville. Someone will get bored eventually, but I won't do a favor for toxic people.
    ..Just kick them. If you finish the dungeon they still get to re queue anyhow afterwards.
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    PetiteMalFleur's Avatar
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    Viva Diva
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Twilite View Post
    ..Just kick them. If you finish the dungeon they still get to re queue anyhow afterwards.
    I agree. If someone asks to be kicked I will. No reason to keep someone who doesn't want to be there. Never had someone refuse to run until I kicked because I've always just done it. The power play is just pointless.
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    PotatoWafflez's Avatar
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    Endless Paradox
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    Cerberus
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    Gladiator Lv 1
    Only if this penalty is applied to every role would I get behind it, I remember when I wanted to run PS but healers would instantly bail leaving me with two dps or one assuming they didn't also bail.
    Its not specific roles that do this its specific people.
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    Player Buff_Archer's Avatar
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    Buff Archer
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    Diabolos
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    I'm not referring to people who find that their parties are incapable... I'm referring to those who leave without even checking their gear because they drew a dungeon that they knew was in the roulette pool and they decided to gamble on not getting it and the rest pay the consequences. In this case it's not about the people who stay it's all about the person who left 1 sec after it popped.
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    Eyriwaen Zirhmusyn
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 100
    There's no way to punish those without punishing us tanks who excersize our right to avoid playing with people we don't want to.
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    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urthdigger View Post
    There's no way to punish those without punishing us tanks who excersize our right to avoid playing with people we don't want to.
    I don't understand how you have this problem I could ask people if they want to run content and all day people would be up for running content with me just because I am a tank.
    If you don't want to run with certain people from DF why are you even queuing with DF when its trivial for you not too?
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    Brightsayge's Avatar
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    Selene Brightsage
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    Sargatanas
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    Gladiator Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by PotatoWafflez View Post
    I don't understand how you have this problem I could ask people if they want to run content and all day people would be up for running content with me just because I am a tank.
    If you don't want to run with certain people from DF why are you even queuing with DF when its trivial for you not too?
    yup I agree. but normally when I encounter a tank leaving its low level, new person message. and they cant queue as a party for their low level daily. I mainly tank and I normally will stay till the end, regardless if ppl are bickering and whining or new. I just keep pulling and let them sort it out. Some tanks leave because they are just in queue for a friend. its probably faster to do it that way than wait 30 mins for a dps queue.
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    Urthdigger's Avatar
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    Eyriwaen Zirhmusyn
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Buff_Archer View Post
    In these situations are you able to assess this about them, and turn around and walk out the door in < 5 seconds after the instance started loading without anyone even having a chance to say a word first?
    I have a list of players I refuse to play with. Also when folks are using the wrong type of gear (caster on a brd, etc), or use acc to enter, say, a ilvl70 minimum dungeon with ilvl 50 left side gear.

    Quote Originally Posted by PotatoWafflez View Post
    I don't understand how you have this problem I could ask people if they want to run content and all day people would be up for running content with me just because I am a tank.
    If you don't want to run with certain people from DF why are you even queuing with DF when its trivial for you not too?
    CT mainly, don't always have 23 bored folks to make an alliance. And if I shout in Mor Dhona that's just as bad as DF.
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    Gladiator Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by Urthdigger View Post
    CT mainly, don't always have 23 bored folks to make an alliance. And if I shout in Mor Dhona that's just as bad as DF.
    Ugh I can't stand CT at the moment you have a stupidly large likelihood to wipe on Bone Dragon regardless of your alliance I would argue that CT is the exception not the rule however, and kind of becomes irrelevant to the topic at hand due to not being in a roulette and being counted as a raid, meaning you go to CT expecting to run CT.

    But I can see how you would want to drop some of those groups, seeing how they have no random element besides your alliance I think the 30 minute penalty is fine as you aren't leaving due to the content you are leaving due to the players, I would never want to force someone to have to play with people they cannot cooperate with for whatever reason.
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    Player Buff_Archer's Avatar
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    Buff Archer
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    Diabolos
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    Summoner Lv 60
    In these situations are you able to assess this about them, and turn around and walk out the door in < 5 seconds after the instance started loading without anyone even having a chance to say a word first?
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