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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Actually database engineer may mean Auction House, I hope they won't waste resources for that, but that might be it.
    One of those wouldn't take more than like two weeks to set up for a single person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    One of those wouldn't take more than like two weeks to set up for a single person.
    Yeah SURE. I'm afraid you have no idea of what kind of development effort this kind of addition would entail. Development AND testing by the way.

    Implementing integrated features in a MMORPG isn't the same thing as creating a SQL database and throwing it on the net, if you didn't yet know.

    Quote Originally Posted by Darkshade View Post
    I thought I was within the realm of realism. There have been multiple articles on the net about what hell it is working for SE.
    Oh yeah, articles written by ignorant western wannabe-writers looking for a scoop with no idea of the usual work conditions in Japan and based exclusively on Yoshida's working hours (that say nothing about the working hours of other employees). Such a reliable source
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Oh yeah, articles written by ignorant western wannabe-writers looking for a scoop with no idea of the usual work conditions in Japan and based exclusively on Yoshida's working hours (that say nothing about the working hours of other employees). Such a reliable source
    If I understand correctly wasn't it because the developers made such a screw up with the release that they are forced to work these long hours to fix it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Konachibi View Post
    If I understand correctly wasn't it because the developers made such a screw up with the release that they are forced to work these long hours to fix it?

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    acually when they first hire them they ask if they willing to work these crazy insane hours, and within a month or 2, way b4 ready they are already slowly working there hours more and more till there working every day of the week like 16hrs a day. i'm looking for a post that says this lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weeble View Post
    acually when they first hire them they ask if they willing to work these crazy insane hours, and within a month or 2, way b4 ready they are already slowly working there hours more and more till there working every day of the week like 16hrs a day. i'm looking for a post that says this lol.
    Ah, kind of like the best way to boil a frog whilst it's still alive. Slowly increase the temperature and it'll stay there till it's dead.

    Possibly not the best choice of a metaphor...

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    Quote Originally Posted by weeble View Post
    acually when they first hire them they ask if they willing to work these crazy insane hours, and within a month or 2, way b4 ready they are already slowly working there hours more and more till there working every day of the week like 16hrs a day. i'm looking for a post that says this lol.
    Overtime is a must and the norm in ALL Japanese corporate workplaces. What seem "crazy hours" to you are nothing for a Japanese.

    Ah, about warhammer,what you wrote isn't "fact", it's just a rumor posted by an alleged "fired employee", who (if he even is an employee and not just a random troll inventing stuff) has every interest in shedding a bad light upon his former employers, and absolutely no evidence to back up what he said.

    Not sure about your definition of "fact", but it's quite far from mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Overtime is a must and the norm in ALL Japanese corporate workplaces. What seem "crazy hours" to you are nothing for a Japanese.

    Ah, about warhammer,what you wrote isn't "fact", it's just a rumor posted by an alleged "fired employee", who (if he even is an employee and not just a random troll inventing stuff) has every interest in shedding a bad light upon his former employers, and absolutely no evidence to back up what he said.

    Not sure about your definition of "fact", but it's quite far from mine.
    Have you seen the current state of Warhammer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zalasta View Post
    Have you seen the current state of Warhammer?
    I have, it's in exactly the same state it was in on launch day, but with extra broken content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Konachibi View Post
    If I understand correctly wasn't it because the developers made such a screw up with the release that they are forced to work these long hours to fix it?

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    In Japan its not surprising to have crazy work hours to start with. Its a culture where there is actually a word for death by being overworked. A Japanese person's work schedule is very different from an Americans. I know a friend of mine basically has 16 hours shifts from time to time from working nights one day then mornings the next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetonegi View Post
    In Japan its not surprising to have crazy work hours to start with. Its a culture where there is actually a word for death by being overworked. A Japanese person's work schedule is very different from an Americans. I know a friend of mine basically has 16 hours shifts from time to time from working nights one day then mornings the next.
    I heard once as well that when leaving the workplace for the day in Japan instead of saying 'goodbye' they say 'sorry'.

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