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  1. #521
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    Gilraen's Avatar
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    Gilraen Bior
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthBuzzer View Post
    This will be an undeniable problem 7 years down the line. Imagine a new player having to spend a year doing 1000 story quests before they get into the latest expansion? There would be no new players in the latest expansion at all.
    Oh, no doubt. This is an issue with XI at present, with Abyssea and Adoulin needing you be level 99 with iL gear to be viable. But now, in XIV, this issue is moot as there's not that much barring you from running through the story within a month at the slowest of paces. And given story unlocks the majority of content there's honestly no reason not to.
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  2. #522
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    Cian's Avatar
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    Damn It
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    Quote Originally Posted by XxSliphxX View Post
    For some people IT IS all about end-game. Why should that bother you? Story isn't end all be all for EVERYONE. There is no "right way" to play an mmo it's personal choice. ( Is it fair that they are also locked out of new content?They have been playing just as long as you and definitely longer than me. Do they not deserve to see new content because they chose an off beat path but I do because i slogged through the story? Agian people are projecting how THEY think the game should be played and this is wrong. Obviously my views on this are not popular which is too be expected here but I'm just saying not everyone is going to be happy about this nor think its fair and I hope square is prepared for the backlash because believe me it's coming.
    You are playing the wrong game because FF is all about a story. Find a mmo with no story at all so you can stop wasting your money and be happy.
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    Last edited by Cian; 06-11-2015 at 10:04 PM.

  3. #523
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    Reynhart's Avatar
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthBuzzer View Post
    This will be an undeniable problem 7 years down the line. Imagine a new player having to spend a year doing 1000 story quests before they get into the latest expansion? There would be no new players in the latest expansion at all.
    You mean a new player having seven years of content so that he'll never complain about doing the same boring stuff again and again and how the game clearly lacks content ?
    Oh, the horror.../shudder

    I'm trying to imagine what it'd be like in an offline RPG. "What, escaping Midgard and gathering Huge Materia ? I don't have time for that, give me a save file directly in North Crater"
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    Oh, no doubt. This is an issue with XI at present, with Abyssea and Adoulin needing you be level 99 with iL gear to be viable.
    The issue with FFXI is that it has a horrible catch-up mechanic. Which is clearly not the same for XIV.
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  4. #524
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    Draylen Aurora
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    new player won't be happy to do 100quest when they reach level 50 to enter the expansion, cause 2.1 to 2.55 is 100quests. end of story, that's the problem people see. no matter if it's mmo, ff , story driven etc. if they wan't a succesfull expansion with new comer. they failed with that decision.
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  5. #525
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylen View Post
    new player won't be happy to do 100quest when they reach level 50 to enter the expansion, cause 2.1 to 2.55 is 100quests. end of story, that's the problem people see. no matter if it's mmo, ff , story driven etc. if they wan't a succesfull expansion with new comer. they failed with that decision.
    Why...don't...people...just...want...to...PLAY...THE...GAME.
    Everytime something new comes, people are ready to do everything for it...except playing through the content !

    At lauch, people were mad from the lack of quests and content to do, now they're mad because they...have something to do. o_O
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 06-11-2015 at 10:05 PM.

  6. #526
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    Elyza Arcanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthBuzzer View Post
    This will be an undeniable problem 7 years down the line. Imagine a new player having to spend a year doing 1000 story quests before they get into the latest expansion? There would be no new players in the latest expansion at all.
    Firstly, I agree with Reynhart. I will ENVY the new players that will have the ability to do that GIANT amount of new stuff. Months of fun! New content all the time! Super easy leveling due to the vast amounts of content!
    Secondly, once we get to the point you are describing, I am absolutely positive that SE will add some ways to skip stuff, similar as WoW has, but we are NOWHERE near that point in time. Future expansions might even be their own stories, and not fully connected to the current storyline. Lets cross that river once we get there.
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  7. #527
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylen View Post
    new player won't be happy to do 100quest when they reach level 50 to enter the expansion, cause 2.1 to 2.55 is 100quests. end of story, that's the problem people see. no matter if it's mmo, ff , story driven etc. if they wan't a succesfull expansion with new comer. they failed with that decision.
    Tbh I would almost rather be in their skin, those 100 quests at lvl 50 we did, those gave us ZERO experience. The players hitting 50 after the expansion comes round will get at least 1 level from just the story content.
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  8. #528
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    berries's Avatar
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    Bebe Oh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Why...don't...people...just...want...to...PLAY...THE...GAME.
    Everytime something new comes, people are ready to do everything for it...except playing through the content !

    At lauch, people were mad from the lack of quests and content to do, now they're mad because they...have something to do. o_O
    I woulnd't see it as a lot of things to do, or too much things to do, but as a lack of choice. I'm pretty confident that many... including from the silent majority that doesn't come to forums, would choose to skip the story at least for a while to get to the new content. There's bound to be plenty of returning players, not just new who haven't finished up to latest story point and aren't too fussy about it and would just prefer to see the new things, even if it meant being unable to continue the main story until it's finished up to 2.55.
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  9. #529
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    Ahhh the misery of the official forums...

    FFXIV ARR content clearing speed will be "faster" <--- This is the devs "helping hand" for new players. It's appreciated and more than enough for newcomers and returners to enter Ishgard.
    There is no need to directly enter Ishgard as a lvl1.

    Also @OP and whoever shares the opinion that people should be able to enter Ishgard without having finished the main story quests, I tell you this.



    If new players that started the game 1 month ago have completed their main quest line and have 3 jobs at lvl 50 wihtout playing 24/7 then why should new players, that start at 3.0, not be able to do the same ?

    (/huh)
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  10. #530
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    Dererk Titan
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthBuzzer View Post
    This will be an undeniable problem 7 years down the line. Imagine a new player having to spend a year doing 1000 story quests before they get into the latest expansion? There would be no new players in the latest expansion at all.
    I highly doubt every expansion will need to have the previous one completed if they just do it for this one and just make the 2.0 story needed for every expansion needed for expansion after Heavensward it will be fine they can make it branch off to other far away places like Razat Han for example it seams like it will be the equivalent of Arth a rugan in ffxi.
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