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    Tsuga's Avatar
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    Tsuga Lem
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    The only reason Crafters and Gatherers exist in their current state is because Tanaka's plan for 1.0 was that players should be able to just play on crafters and gatherers without touching combat classes if they want to. This has changed, though.

    Crafting and Gathering is a side thing. Yoshida confirmed that progression would be tied to DoW/DoM back before 2.0 was launched, because trying to balance progression for Crafters and Gatherers was too difficult. This is why you HAVE to start as a DoW or DoM at the beginning of the game. The game is designed for DoW/DoM first.
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    Tea Mysidia
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    Rogue Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuga View Post
    The only reason Crafters and Gatherers exist in their current state is because Tanaka's plan for 1.0 was that players should be able to just play on crafters and gatherers without touching combat classes if they want to. This has changed, though.

    Crafting and Gathering is a side thing. Yoshida confirmed that progression would be tied to DoW/DoM back before 2.0 was launched, because trying to balance progression for Crafters and Gatherers was too difficult. This is why you HAVE to start as a DoW or DoM at the beginning of the game. The game is designed for DoW/DoM first.
    You can still play around with crafters and gatherers. You pick up a DoL class at 10 level it to 50 and play as much as you want. Just don't expect that the Holy See will open it's doors to the legendary lumberjack of light.
    Now I didn't play 1.0 at all but I'm pretty sure the story quests would have still required you to kill. Don't think Tanaka tought this through.
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    Tsuga Lem
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    You can still play around with crafters and gatherers. You pick up a DoL class at 10 level it to 50 and play as much as you want. Just don't expect that the Holy See will open it's doors to the legendary lumberjack of light.
    Now I didn't play 1.0 at all but I'm pretty sure the story quests would have still required you to kill. Don't think Tanaka tought this through.
    You could play a minigame to get out of a lot of stuff that required combat, if you were a crafter/gather in 1.0. Also you had a path companion to help out, I guess.. and you could chuck rocks?

    I guarantee you that if Yoshida could have destroyed the current design for crafters and gatherers, he would have. You can play the game as a crafter/gatherer exclusively if you want to, now, but you CANNOT get a mount, you CANNOT get an airship pass, and you CANNOT get to Ishgard without DoW or DoM. These are milestones that are designed around DoW and DoM because the game itself is designed pretty much exclusively for DoW and DoM. Crafting is supposed to be a side thing, if you play this game to craft that's awesome, but you cannot reach certain milestones by synthing ingots and cakes.
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    A'lsiel Tia
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    All I hear is whining and entitlement...Just suck it up and do the story, like every other player before you, did.
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    Memenu Menu
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    Siren
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    With that logic, Memenu Menu, Primal of the Lalafell should just be let in because she punched a dragon to death with only her fists and a mean look.

    Doesn't mean it's going to happen. Shouldn't, either.
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    Aldoric Firepeak
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    Scholar Lv 60
    I would have to say a big fat NO here. It would require SE do go back and completely change the 2.0 story line. So I don't see this happening at all. Maybe the next expansion will allow you to skip 2.0. If you're worried about server stress load right now, how do think the servers will respond when everyone and their mother can get into the new zone right off the bat. I'm sure this tactic was implemented to stay true to the lore of the story and to help limit the amount of people accessing these new areas.
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    Amanda Heart
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    Diabolos
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Its like sayin i want to start at the end of a jrpg see the end of the game before even starting it
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    Alexes D'kal
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    This is a problem with people trying to experience a new game mechanics to them and then request/demand to change it to their liking/other game style.

    If the OP has friends coming/ joining the game then HELP them. The dev team already said that they are going to make a lot things to help them so they won't struggle that much. I am sure we will be forced to play old content so new players won't have to wait a long queue to get their level or if they want to farm something for glamour/items.

    Playing a game based entirely on its storyline and asking to be skipped /facepalm srly people are amusing.
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    Gungrave Hellsing
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    they had 2 years to hit 50 so its not a valid excuse why they haven't completed the story by now.
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    Katarh Mest
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by XgungraveX View Post
    they had 2 years to hit 50 so its not a valid excuse why they haven't completed the story by now.
    Some people only started the game in the last few months. So no, not everyone has had two years.

    That said, someone I know who started in December has a Zeta, but still. Not everyone plays the game in a hurry.
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