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    Yuri_Hyuga's Avatar
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    Yuri Hyuga
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    They can still play the market, still buy cheap, craft and sell high all the way to 60, and can even gather at 51-60 nodes, all highly likely without accessing the new zones...
    They won't be able to touch certain nodes (and likely, certain recipes) without Ishgard access..

    Quote Originally Posted by Mugiawara View Post
    ...crafting/gathering are side things.
    No they aren't. Look at how much they've put into the progression system for crafter's/gatherer's, they even implemented an entire Beast Tribe to them.
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    Last edited by Yuri_Hyuga; 06-09-2015 at 06:08 AM.

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    Mugiawara's Avatar
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    Yoku Dekimashita
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    Faerie
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Yuri_Hyuga View Post
    They won't be able to touch certain nodes (and likely, certain recipes) without Ishgard access..



    No they aren't. Look at how much they've put into the progression system for crafter's/gatherer's, they even implemented an entire Beast Tribe to them.
    But the game still focuses on story and combat.
    That's what I meant. You either grit your teeth or don't.
    If you don't wanna level up a job, this game isn't for you sadly.
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    Hyperion
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    Armorer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Yuri_Hyuga View Post
    They won't be able to touch certain nodes (and likely, certain recipes) without Ishgard access..



    No they aren't. Look at how much they've put into the progression system for crafter's/gatherer's, they even implemented an entire Beast Tribe to them.
    We have no significant data on the new tribes yet, let's not muck up the discussion with that.

    Also, you cannot roll a DoH or DoL. By design. Because they are not the main focus of the game.

    Lastly, and probably most importantly- A battlecraft class can play the MSQ and little else (including grind), and with Heavensward adjustments they can get lvl 1-50 likely in less than 12 hours, and because of the superior gear rewards built into the questline they will already be sufficiently geared to complete Steps of Faith. Per SE.

    I suggest less than 12 hours, conservatively, because a couple friends, even today without the Heavensward boosts, can grind to 50 on a combat class in about 9 hours.

    TLDR: Demanding handouts is pointless. People who refuse to do MSQ progression are not owed the perks of doing MSQ progression.

    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    they feel cheated when they hear [they have to progress just like every other player accessing Ishgard]
    I know, right? so unfair...
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    Last edited by Duuude007; 06-09-2015 at 06:30 AM.