This Just In: Ifrit HM Now Requires i110

[Dante_V]

Provoke will fix a lot of the problems you are having in regards to the dps and I would consider it absolutely necessary if you are going to be serious about tanking.

[Dante_V]

Also if someone pulls that isn't a tank, let them tank it and die.

[Arkenne]

Depending on one's ilvl Ifrit HM can be tanked even as a DPS, hell, I've tanked it as a NIN (which is the DPS with the least defensive Cooldowns) D:
Im not sure you could have holded aggro on a group 40 ilvls above but yep, flaming at you for this much clearly proves how much of a "good" group that was...

[SpookyGhost]

Provoke won't solve your problem, but you should get it anyway (mostly only necessary at EX primals/Coil1 and beyond, but very useful when DPS steal aggro on something in general).

Better gear will, however, solve it. Especially a better weapon.

If I were just starting the game now, fresh 50, I'd spend all my gil on getting an HQ i110 weapon. Then I'd farm CT -> ST to get a decent set of gear, spending my soldiery on accessories (STR/VIT mix). From there, you just naturally progress your gear and you'll have a good baseline gearset for HM/EX Primals and first Coil.

This is genuinely a problem for new players, though. There's no clear indication what direction you should be taking at this point, and it's essentially impossible to perform the MT role as a fresh "undergeared" 50. Hopefully they come up with a way to resolve this issue in Heavensward, but until then... yeah, just try and buy a weapon and get better gear from CT/ST.

[Mirakell]

DF can be a bit of a hit and miss when it comes to the type of players your going to run into ^^;
More and more are just expecting everyone to have been playing the game since day 1 and go into trails in full 130 just because they want to rush it etc. When I was farming for light I always felt bad for the fresh tank or healer who had no idea what was going on while the rest of the party just rushed off ahead ^^;

If you can - grab some friends and have fun DF really is turning into a lottery at times >.>

[Twilite]

Also if someone pulls that isn't a tank, let them tank it and die.

Can be unavoidable if RNG kicks in and you crit some 6 times in a row for heavy damage. /blm

[Ashkendor]

Can be unavoidable if RNG kicks in and you crit some 6 times in a row for heavy damage. /blm

They weren't talking about ripping hate though. They were talking about doing the initial pull.

The tank was waiting for protect and the DRG decided they were gonna go stab Ifrit.

[amanda]

Ilvl 110 + Dps should atlest give first time tanks a 3 to 5 second time frame to get enough hate so there Wouldn't be a problem or low ilvl tank let other tank tank HM primals unless other one is just as green as him/ her

[Twilite]

They weren't talking about ripping hate though. They were talking about doing the initial pull.

The tank was waiting for protect and the DRG decided they were gonna go stab Ifrit.

Oh ok, then I'm with the sentiment that DRG should have tanked and set a record for fastest death.

I'll take this time to repeat what I always say regarding aggro: You tanks can keep it. I don't want it.

[Cakekizy]

We need to remove ilvl sync and add another type of ilvl sync - up to lowest ilvl of a group member. This way low ilvl tanks still can do their job, and if you want to do a fight as fast as possible you can make a group where all members have high ilvl and have fun.

I think that is one of the options in 3.0.