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  1. #1
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    Scrolls for magic abilties

    I would like to see scrolls implemented for the magics. I think it can be a very rewarding feeling when you do a quest to get a uber scroll. (Like sleepga II in ff11). I also think that it was a nice way to make gil. I think it also sets players apart from one another. Just a small thought. Probably too late to change it though.
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    Lienn Deleene
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    No, thanks. Having scrolls in FFXI was terribly annoying...i'd hate seeing this here too.
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  3. #3
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    No thanks.
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    Zavier Mhigo
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    Here's the basic argument against:

    Scrolls cost money.
    Gear cost money.
    Mages have to buy gear and scrolls more so than any other classes and are therefore slightly gimped while leveling due to gil constraints. Gil doesn't flow as easy as it once did and therefore it would be harder to have to go back to town and buy spells every two levels and especially so if you don't have the gil, leading to the casual crowd they desperately want to capture being utterly gimped.

    -side argument a: action cost system, why pay for spells that you may never get to even use or which sit at the bottom of your hot bar. This about this you bought all the elemental nuke scrolls but you really only use 1 or 2, that would blow (just an example not saying this is true)

    -side argument b: people could take advantage of scroll drops. Monopolize drop and set price high, done and done. Even worse scrolls could be based on your nations standing if they add it like xi, leading some people to never obtain certain scrolls because their nation has been sucking it up hard lately.

    Therefore no scrolls.

    I'm not casual but seriously eff buying scrolls, I would like epic abilities eventually that maybe use guildmarks or some sort of currency, but not too many, there does need to be a base amount of spells everyone should have just to make the action cost system work.
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    Syntax Lies
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    maybe have scrolls that you can buy with guild marks.
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    Griss Stilgar
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    Buying a scroll with guild marks is functionally no different then buying the skill/ability straight up with them.

    Logically I understand the reasoning behind the suggestion. A long journey seems more manageable when you break it up into shorter trips. But practically I remember what occurred in xi. Certain spells being hard to come by and when you did they often had a hefty price tag attached to them. And players with out the means to obtain them were often shunned and looked down on.

    In short, I am all for obtainable specialty skills/ability's to give players short term goals. I'm against players being able to control or profit from others seeking to gain them. No to scrolls.
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    Ok I'm all for majority votes win, so scratch what I said to an extent. I liked the idea of using guild marks to purchase your elite spells. But something I think should seperate the noobies from the elite.
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    Eyriwaen Zirhmusyn
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    I think it would be nice to have some spells you get access to through difficult quests. I also think melee should get some actions through difficult quests.
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    They have stated that with the new job system coming—the only way to get the abilities are through quests.
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