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    Osmond's Avatar
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    Foe's Requiem affects BRD DPS?

    So I played EX Roulette to WP HM not too long ago and see a BRD foe to do dmg. I was a DRG so I said that we don't have mage DPS. The healer went to some rage for no reason and said that it is and tell me that I can't way what that BRD can or can't do. Didn't even try to offend the BRD and it didn't respond back so it seem ok, but the other just snap so I just stop.

    Seriously though does it affect it's DPS regarding venom bite and wind bite? Cause I do play brd and if I see 2 melee DPS I just mostly paeon if speedruning. Im just stuck w/ confusion cause I don't see many other BRDS do it unless they have a mage in the pty or at least a healer does magic dmg which the healer I join never did as much.
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    I dunno, maybe the healer was doing damage too? As far as I know it doesn't affect bards dps negatively nor positively.
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    Akane Akashiya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osmond View Post
    So I played EX Roulette to WP HM not too long ago and see a BRD foe to do dmg. I was a DRG so I said that we don't have mage DPS. The healer went to some rage for no reason and said that it is and tell me that I can't way what that BRD can or can't do. Didn't even try to offend the BRD and it didn't respond back so it seem ok, but the other just snap so I just stop.

    Seriously though does it affect it's DPS regarding venom bite and wind bite? Cause I do play brd and if I see 2 melee DPS I just mostly paeon if speedruning. Im just stuck w/ confusion cause I don't see many other BRDS do it unless they have a mage in the pty or at least a healer does magic dmg which the healer I join never did as much.
    No it would only affect the damage of the healer bard gets no help from foes
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    Foe's does not increase any Bard or Dragoon damage. They have elemental aspected physical attacks which are just remnants of 1.0, and serve no real purpose anymore. Only a few ninjutsu which are classified as maginal damage are boosted by Foe's in terms of the physical damage dealers. Other than that it is just casters that get benefit from it.
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    Some people get overly defensive about advice, even when it isn't directed at them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post
    Some people get overly defensive about advice, even when it isn't directed at them.
    Well he was basically telling the BRD to stop doing something that was benefitting the run.

    So yeah, foe helps the healer's damage. paeon would possibly help you or the brd if you had tp issues, but if you didn't, it'd be a dps loss. Foe doesn't lower the bard's damage like paeon/ballad do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    Well he was basically telling the BRD to stop doing something that was benefitting the run.

    So yeah, foe helps the healer's damage. paeon would possibly help you or the brd if you had tp issues, but if you didn't, it'd be a dps loss. Foe doesn't lower the bard's damage like paeon/ballad do.
    But the BRD never responded, was mostly curious cause I never see it if he was mostly using his AoE utilities w/ a group of mobs. That's where use he foe the most on. I get that it'll do less dmg w/ paeon active, but it is what it is. I just left it alone after that issue. Didn't want to cause anymore problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    Well he was basically telling the BRD to stop doing something that was benefitting the run.

    So yeah, foe helps the healer's damage. paeon would possibly help you or the brd if you had tp issues, but if you didn't, it'd be a dps loss. Foe doesn't lower the bard's damage like paeon/ballad do.
    Actually, he said he noticed foes was up, and said they didn't have a mage dps.

    We don't even know if the heals was doing any dps. But it looks like you jumped to the same conclusion as the healer.

    The appropriate response from the healer, give the info we have, would have been to inform him that it affects healer dps as well, not to fly off the handle.
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    Not sure but i think flaming arrow is magical damage that get boost from the foe.
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    Nothing BRD does gets boosted by Foe Requiem. But this is irrelevant either way because it doesn't detriment the bard either. If the WHM was using Aero, or you had a scholar present that DoT's the mobs, it is benefiting the run.

    The only time Foe would be unwise to use is if you're expected to be using Ballad at some point soon. That guy was likely complaining about nothing.


    FYI, it boosts magic damage, not elemental damage, or more specifically it reduces the enemy's magic resistance. So if the attack is benefited by Attack Power, it's not getting boosted. Only casters get the benefit. If the WHM is using Holy, or you have a Scholar present, it is indeed helping the run.
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    Last edited by Edellis; 06-05-2015 at 02:10 AM.

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