Ignoring the rest of the thread, just popping in to say I like the drawings of your character in the dress, very well done. If I played a male character I'd totally wear it, lol.
A'cacia Khiryu
I don't remember ever addressing the developers to tell them they can't do anything. The OP asked them to implement something like that and if they don't want to they're completely within their rights to not implement it. I don't see the harm in asking, so I gave my support.Yes but the op is asking the dev team to change something they don't like yes? there not just asking for more male outfits but asking the development team to make dresses for males. So lets say the development team likes only girls to wear dresses well it's innocent of them to think that way right? so by going out of your way to say it's wrong or not right is the same as going up to ppl who play golf and saying i don't like it stop or change it.
Also consider, if you'd like to flip it on me, you'd need an example of me actively trying to force someone to play in a way that meets my personal approval. Again, this is not the same as asking for more options, which was the point of my previous post.
Some quick research would find many examples of different dresses available to males already in game. Not to mention essentially being forced to wear them as a caster (though that's another issue entirely). It's a convenient hypothetical, but I don't see enough evidence to assume the devs have any strong aversion to effeminate looking male outfits.
You don't consider it broke, the OP is of a different opinion. That question assumes yours is the only one.
It's just clothing.
It's not like clothing changes your gender or sex. It's just an unwritten social contract on what we expect to be acceptable for our own time and culture. The only strength it has is people's compliance with it as it stands.
Frankly, I don't see any rational reason why it shouldn't be at least allowed. I get there might be technical, time, and money issues that could pose as a solid detractor. But I don't quite get the fevered offence to the idea. (Though I expect a lot of it is just reactionary from the heated defense on the subject I see thrown around. Seriously, someone who's uncomfortable with something they rarely see makes them a "bigot"? That's hardly fair. It's human nature to be wary of what appears off kilter from expected standing. That's just survival instinct.)
That was precisely it! I wanted to show that it doesn't look atrocious on males in case just seeing that would encourage people to support equal treatment.
To get around all of the negative debate here I'd like to give an example that isn't so fraught with the issues this one is:
Imagine that they announced the new glamours and presented them as males get a wooden barrel to wear and females get a potato sack. Suddenly it's announced that the females can now also equip the barrel but the potato sack is still female exclusive. I happen to think that my male character would look amazing in a potato sack and feel slighted because just because I picked a male character I now have one less glamour option (plus it was one I thought I'd personally wear). This on top of the fact that just months ago they released a cardboard box for males and a trash bag for females and when both sides protested against the gender locking they made the cardboard box unisex but left the trash bag female only.
Hopefully that hypothetical (I think that's what it's called) helps you all take a step back from the issue and see it for what it is.
... Okay... All Lalas totally need potato sacks now... I want that xD
~Terra-chan~
At the end of the day it's up to SE if they say heyy!! guys can wear dresses and such hooray!!!!!!!! and that be that nothing anyone can do but. If SE don't make the dresses for males then oh well get over it sure the op is not saying this them self. But many ppl do act like this or go with the whole SE is evil because such and such we all remember the first vday event all the crying because the men did not have dresses and other events like weddings. That's why there is male and female {they are not the same and do not wear or get the same outfits} why can't females wear the male starting gear? why can't our swim suits look alike? a world where everything's the sameWell there's not much fun. Point? we pick what we play as knowing full well everything will not be the same
A world where I'm allowed to dress as I want sounds more fun than a world that restricts the way I choose to express myself.
Just because someone is given a clothing option doesn't mean you're going to see every single character wearing it. More choices means more variety, not less.
Last edited by Calypsx; 06-08-2015 at 06:30 PM.
Ditto can we all walk around nude? in what world can you act dress or not dress {nudest} how you like? there is always something going to restrict you a bit
Even though I find robes to look hideous on males, OP is 100% right. If females get male gears, males must get female gears. Equality has to be...equal. NO matter the reason why you want a male character to wear a dress. You may like to wear dresses or maybe you want to pretend to be a detective under cover.
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