New glamour dress on a male (art)

[Gilraen]

The decay of morality is in no way related to how people choose to look. The idea that a person is 'morally deficient' just because they want to wear a dress and just happens to be male is preposterous and would probably be met with much criticism in certain other countries (like Scotland with their kilts). Being 'morally deficient' is more akin to having no qualms killing a homeless man just because he's homeless, or leaving the scene of a hit and run because having to deal with running someone over is below your attention. It's sad that people will connect such brazen acts with something as harmless as cross-dressing.

[Wolfyboy]

Can someone explain to my why this can't be fit to males? Honestly, I decided to find a picture with a similar skirt attached, and I'm not seeing him as a cross dresser.

[SDaemon]

Moral decay at it's finest.

Whose morals and what? Saying this is moral decay at it's finest is an empty statement.

[Noxifer]

Not all male characters want this type of glamor, so 50% is not a truly accurate figure.

Maybe not this type of glamour, but that wasn't what myahele meant. It was the constant "male characters get one outfit, female characters get two outfits" that alienates players who prefer male characters.

Moral decay at it's finest.

And I'm pretty sure that was what many people said back when women started wearing trousers in public... And yet the world hasn't collapsed yet.

[SakuraMidori]

The truth is "equality" is just an excuse.. People really just want to run around as male cross-dressers plain and simple. Some because they think it's funny (i.e hildibrand etc) and some because it reflects their own personal lives. I for one am glad SE is somewhat sticking to their guns on this issue. Some may rejoice but the day SE falters and gives into letting male characters run around in all sorts of provocative female clothes will be the day I quit the game. Too many people are just doing their oh so best to blur the lines between everything and don't have a clue of what is good and right. This thread is a perfect example of a worldview that has no standard in which to look to and make decisions based on. Moral decay at it's finest.

Best read of the day

[NozomiKei]

Are you even serious right now?

Did you even read the thread??????????????

I don't particularly think it's funny (sexy though? heck yes!), and I'm pretty sure I'm not a male nor do I crossdress, so....

Have you even played this game??????? So many outfits in this game that I can put on my guy that are by most Western standards less than manly that it makes me proud.

And "good and right"? Really? I suppose you don't think females should (irl) ever wear pants or have jobs either, because those were things that were referred to as "moral decay" like 70 years ago. Y'know, when it was abhorrent that males should wear anything other than Western/European clothes? Then again you're entitled to your opinion.

Consider that this set was something like a lumberjack outfit. People playing male characters see no reason they shouldn't be able to wear it and make this thread with their character wearing it. You would support it then, right? I see this outfit as being just as appropriate as a lumberjack outfit.

[Hito-Shura]

The truth is "equality" is just an excuse.. People really just want to run around as male cross-dressers plain and simple. Some because they think it's funny (i.e hildibrand etc) and some because it reflects their own personal lives. I for one am glad SE is somewhat sticking to their guns on this issue. Some may rejoice but the day SE falters and gives into letting male characters run around in all sorts of provocative female clothes will be the day I quit the game. Too many people are just doing their oh so best to blur the lines between everything and don't have a clue of what is good and right. This thread is a perfect example of a worldview that has no standard in which to look to and make decisions based on. Moral decay at it's finest.

Your point of view is rather narrow for big words such as moral decay, the right and the wrong. And let's be honest, you quitting the game and hours of hard work and dedication over such a trifle matter is a poor scare tactic.

Some people support this idea for equality while others support it for other reasons but all are valid as they are all supported by facts. We all have a reason to either support it or be against it and that is what it means to be a community. Also, do don't attribute your personal perception of this debate to a global and outdated concept such as moral decay... It makes you lose a lot of credibility. Besides, you seem to view this in the distorted extreme while there are already plenty of potential for characters to be provocative yet only a few choose to do so. The addition would not cause half the server to crossdress and far from it.

[synesthetic]

Did you even read the thread??????????????

It's a pretty long thread.
Most people probably haven't even clicked on it.
Most people who clicked on it probably haven't read much further than the first post or page, and maybe the last page.
Those of us who've actually read all 57 pages are the few, the proud, the people with nothing better to do.

[NozomiKei]

It's a pretty long thread.
Most people probably haven't even clicked on it.
Most people who clicked on it probably haven't read much further than the first post or page, and maybe the last page.
Those of us who've actually read all 57 pages are the few, the proud, the people with nothing better to do.

Or the op. ; D XD

Really they wouldn't have to read any further than the first post to find their first example of someone who fits neither category. *shrug*

[Yukiba]

It's sad that people will connect such brazen acts with something as harmless as cross-dressing.

I'm sorry but you are in error. Totally different categories. Kilts in Scotland (which is a product of Gaelic heritage traditionally worn by males) are in no way shape or form a parallel to male cross-dressers who as men purposefully dress as a woman.. In fact a Scotsman would be offended at the notion that there kilts which have deep roots and heritage are somehow comparable to that of men cross-dressing. Kilts are traditionally viewed as formal male attire and is not even close to the nature of this topic. Secondly, how people go about living their lives, yes even how they dress, does have baring on the morality of society. Because it speaks to the nature of our hearts as individuals. It not the clothes themselves that are good or bad but the intentions of those who wear them which is the EXACT difference between a kilt in Scotland and a male diva who wears a dress high heels and makeup as though he were a female. Intention.

Is it truly ok for a man to dress and act like a woman? It's a question of morality whether you chose to believe so or not.. But because the majority of people in the forums hold a secular worldview they say YES it is absolutely ok! Equality equality equality! Like a drum beat. When the fact is they have no standard to reference from to even draw any moral conclusions. For instance.. On what basis can you say its ok for a person who feels like a woman trapped in a mans body to have gender transformation surgery but its not ok for a person who feels like one of their limbs is not their own and wants it to be surgically removed (BIID/Xenomelia)? You can't.. Infact to even be consistent with your own worldview you would have to say its ok for them both to have the surgery which reveals the insanity of the position.. So how is it you can say it's a good thing for men to cross-dress?

I say all that to say this. What a person wears matters and I look forward with hope that SE wont bend on their position. If they do then they can be sure that I wont be playing their game anymore. I wont be commenting anymore as I'm sure this is falling on deaf ears.

Edit: Not using me quitting as a scare tactic.. Just being upfront about it. I dont care how many hours I put into this game or money, I wont continue to fund (though insignificant in comparison to how much money the rake in) a game that goes against my worldview to such a degree. It's already pushing the limits..