If you disable cleric stance during combat, when would you use it?

[desufin]

You forgot the SCH and upcoming AST would complain as well if Cleric Stance was made ineffective. Actually I would suspect more SCH than CNJ/WHM would complain about it but it's just a suspicion.

[Ghishlain]

They're very loud. I still don't have something to replace Haymaker or One-Ilm Punch in my MNK skill list.

While I agree, the key defining point is Haymaker / One-Ilm Punch / other moves of similar nature are at least still "remotely useful on the borderline of useless". By making "Clerics Stance" do nothing, it is the epitome of "useless" and should be replaced with something. Yes, I know, it's a small semantics things, but I feel its an important semantic because at least everything else in this game is remotely useful at some form of the game (yes, even Tri-Disaster in PvP).

You forgot the SCH and upcoming AST would complain as well if Cleric Stance was made ineffective. Actually I would suspect more SCH than CNJ/WHM would complain about it but it's just a suspicion.

The reason I said specifically CNJ/WHM is because at least SCH and AST will have the option to CC something else. CNJ/WHMs won't have that option if they do make Cleric's Stance useless, sadly.

With that being said, I'm not saying any other cross class at this time will actually be useful either >>; I guess I can take Blizzard II on SCH if I don't have access to Cleric Stance for the bind effect. . .?