Astrologians: What They Could Be Telling Us

[Mimilu]

Having gone through astrology terms before when making my own Astrologian Job idea, I remembered seeing some of the terms that came up as Astrologian spells/skills.

Their main heals, Benefic and Benefic II, refer to Benefic Planets, planets that give a positive influence to whatever zodiac sign crosses their path. Jupiter is the known as the Greater Benefic and Venus is the Lesser Benefic.

Their AoE heal, Helios, refers to a star at the center of a solar system or universe. It could also refer to just a sun.

Their Raise, Ascend, and Esuna, Detriment, refer to the positions celestial bodies can take to zodiac signs. Ascending is when a body is across from the sign it rules and strengthening it, while Detriment is when a body is across an opposing sign and weakening it.

Their instant heal spell, Dignity, refers to Essential Dignity, which is the strength or weakness a planet, star, or zodiac sign has based on their position.

Synastry refers to a Synastry chart, which compares two peoples star charts.

These skills could potentially be telling use a few things:
1) Their could be other planets other then Hydaelyn in the world of XIV.

2) The solar system Hydaelyn is in could be similar to ours, where it and the other planets rotate around a sun.

3) Ishgard could have a zodiac system similar to how we pick one of the twelve as our guardian during character creation.

What are your guys' thoughts? >o>

[Isklexi]

No love for syzygy? (best scrabble play ever)

The structure of the solar system is unlikely to have a huge impact on the story (unless we start planet hopping).

Zodiarc and the Ivalice espers (and by extension the Ascians) already reference the zodiac directly. I'm not sure how many more astrology references they can squeeze in.

[Samcaesar]

I wonder how different Ishgardian Astologians (The ones we currently see) and Sharlayan Astrologians (What the job will be).

[Cilia]

The Ishgardian Astrologians aren't Astrologian Astrologians, they're just astrologers. They can't use magic derived from celestial phenomena like the Sharlayans.

Don't know if there's any other planets in the solar system. Maybe. Is the sky just the aetheric sea? Someone set me up a telescope in Revenant's Toll!

[Mimilu]

No love for syzygy? (best scrabble play ever)

The structure of the solar system is unlikely to have a huge impact on the story (unless we start planet hopping).

Zodiarc and the Ivalice espers (and by extension the Ascians) already reference the zodiac directly. I'm not sure how many more astrology references they can squeeze in.

I had thought about the Ivalice Espers.
I wonder if the Ishgarian Zodiac would also reflect on it or be something different?
It could explain why the Ascians are with the Holy See IF their espers have a connection to them.

I wonder how different Ishgardian Astologians (The ones we currently see) and Sharlayan Astrologians (What the job will be).

I haven't heard anything about Sharlayan Astrologians but now I'm curious. >3>

[Mimilu]

The Ishgardian Astrologians aren't Astrologian Astrologians, they're just astrologers. They can't use magic derived from celestial phenomena like the Sharlayans.

Don't know if there's any other planets in the solar system. Maybe. Is the sky just the aetheric sea? Someone set me up a telescope in Revenant's Toll!

That's what I was wondering: Where is Hydaelyn? I thought it was in the aetheric sea too but with stars and other celestial bodies, could it be similar to our space?
Also, how has no one ever thought to go up there or send a prob to see? Is there no aether past a certain point? Is there an Ozone layer keeping the aether in?
I want to know about space. *A*

Also, how does the Ishgardian Astrologian's magic work if it isn't derived from celestial phenomena? Trajectory and calculation like the Arcanist?

[Samcaesar]

I haven't heard anything about Sharlayan Astrologians but now I'm curious. >3>

The Astologians you see in the Observatory in Coerthas are Ishgardian :P

http://i.imgur.com/NjlIV23.png This, the Job, is Sharlayan in origin, and while we haven't seen any of them currently in game, we might with Heavensward.

I dunno if they can't use magic, they might not use it in combat orientated ways like the Sharlayan Astologian, but they did end up predicting several things like Midgarsormr rising from his death, didn't they?

[Cilia]

That's what I was wondering: Where is Hydaelyn? I thought it was in the aetheric sea too but with stars and other celestial bodies, could it be similar to our space?
Also, how has no one ever thought to go up there or send a prob to see? Is there no aether past a certain point? Is there an Ozone layer keeping the aether in?
I want to know about space. *A*

Also, how does the Ishgardian Astrologian's magic work if it isn't derived from celestial phenomena? Trajectory and calculation like the Arcanist?

Don't know, exactly. Very little scientific investigation has been made into anything not concerning the field of aether.

We don't know much about space because we lack the technology to go beyond the atmosphere. There's no rockets and such, just airships. While it's not unthinkable for airships to go into space (since they functionally achieve lift through anti-gravity magic), they still have a vague maximum altitude as can be inferred by the Ixal Beast Tribe quests being the construction of an airship designed to go higher than the clouds. We'd need an oxygen supply as well.

Maybe the Garleans could do it, but Eorzea just doesn't have the tech savvy to go into space.

Either way, I'm running on the assumption that the sky itself is the aetheric sea (aether is another term for a classical element often referring to the sky / heavens). It's what separates us from the realm of the Gods... pretty fitting for a mythological world. Considering the Astrologians are able to divine the future from celestial movements, there might be other celestial bodies... but they could just be projections on the aetheric sea, not really anything outside the planet. Same could be true of the sun; we just don't know.

Don't know if Ishgardian Astrologians fight at all; they can't use the magic Sharlayan Astrologians can, though. They're just astrologers, the real-world equivalent of which is basically just horoscope writers these days. (Though, to be fair, their predictions have a better track record than modern-day astrologers, but that's prolly just cuz of magic.)

EDIT

Wait, wait... Dalamud was out in space, and the Crystal Tower is known to collect solar energy. So we do know space and at least a sun exist.

Damn you for setting us back aeons of scientific and technological advancement, Xande!

[WyrahFhurrst]

If we're talking about what celestial bodies are in the Azeyma System perhaps we can look toward traditional astrology as a sign? I assume the sun is named after its goddess just as the moon is named after its, and that would mean the whole system is named after the sun it revolves around, Azeyma. From there perhaps we can conclude that other planets are named after some of the other Twelve, just as the planets in our solar system are named after Greek gods. I know that the constellations are all different on Hydaelyn, and Astrologian's cards are named after them, so it's likely that we'll get to learn about them, which is exciting.

[Grayve]

I dunno if they can't use magic, they might not use it in combat orientated ways like the Sharlayan Astologian, but they did end up predicting several things like Midgarsormr rising from his death, didn't they?

We do know they can't use AST magic, at least, Fern posted about that when explaining why they names are the same... its like the Titan/Tietan thing, all over again.