Do the Primals Know Each Other?

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<...> hinted at maybe Iceheart's summoning of Shiva to be something completely different to what we're used to - that it was granted to her not by the Ascians, but by Nidhogg <...>

Huh, I never really thought about it. I mean, between the whole Ascian, "nurture the gifted, make a primal" meeting and Urianger accusing them directly, I just took it for granted that it led to Shiva due to Nabriales monitoring the whole thing and then taking credit for it a patch later. At least, I assumed he took credit for it. How do you read the phrase, ...?

I suffered the overweening presence of Lahabrea that men might host the power of gods, only for you to undo my hard work.

I had just read Estinien as saying that Iceheart was doing the dirty work of being a thorn in Ishgard's side; as in she organized the heretics, she brought down the outer barriers, she led the attempted recovery of the Eye, etc. I thought he was calling Nidhogg a coward that as soon as he had others willing to head the assault, he stopped risking coming himself. Again, though, I've never thought about any of this in-depth because I'd taken the obviousness (to me) for granted. Wouldn't be the first time I'd assumed wrong and not noticed, if indeed that is the case.

Wonder why Garuda and Ifrit's themes don't have phase transitions post-Ultimate.

Ifrit's theme was done by Nobuo Uematsu, and I suspect they left it that way out of respect for his work. Soken did make Garuda's theme, but Soken's said in the past that Titan's theme was the first time they really just said, hey, do whatever you want, so it's possible that he had specific instructions. If Ifrit and Garuda's themes were remade today, there's no telling what they'd sound like.

Also the Ascians are much like the Lucavi from FFT

If I could pin a gold star on you, I would. I've long suspected that those who lingered on XII instead of moving on to the XII-inspired retcons of PSX Tactics have spent too much time digging in the wrong garden. Without evidence, though, who am I to make such a claim? Usually I just vented to Havik about it, lol.