Question: Alexander Normal vs Savage

[Psychosamm]

I've been getting conflicting info on how the difficulty is scaled between these two modes and would like some clarification.

I thought the two modes were
Normal: Easier version for most people to be able to complete for cut scenes etc.
Hard (or savage, whatever its called): The harder coil like version.

However some of my friends told me that its going to be like this:
Normal: Hard coil like version, maybe slightly easier.
Hard: The equivalent of savage second coil, extremely difficult compared to normal.

So my question is, which is it? And if Hard is going to be like Savage 2nd coil, do we know if there will be loot drops? Or just titles like before?

Any clarification is appreciated. :3

[SongJoohee]

Two modes.

Normal mode is story mode, it drops loot, it is harder than WoD and about the same difficulty as Second Coil (normal) with nerfs + echo.

Savage mode is the hard mode they just chose the "Savage" as it's been used before and needed something to differentiate the two, it drops loot, it is "as hard as a Final Coil savage mode".

The differences between loot is item level, and that Savage version can be dyed.

Just think of Normal mode as Story mode, and the new "Savage" mode as the mode we're currently used to. They are Savage in name only.

[Chihaya]

Already confirmed hard mode will have higher tier and dyeable version of the normal mode loot drops.

[dank1]

To my understanding about the loot they will both drop the same sets except for hard/savage will have the dyeable version (if it's anything like the current dyeable gear then it'll also be a higher ilvl)

As far as difficulty I believe it was stated normal mode is for the casuals with an easy difficulty so that everyone can clear I think they mentioned something similar to like the Crystal Tower set of dungeons we have in terms of difficulty, but as far as the savage mode goes they stated itd be slightly more difficult than the current normal coil modes we have, but not as hard as the current savage modes

[Stupiduglytaru]

Normal = nerfed in the first week due to complaints thus turning into a tank and spank/2min light farm
Hard/savage = nerfed in the first week due to compliants thus turning into a 4min light farm

Followed by we run out of content

[Psychosamm]

Ok thank you for the answers, i knew i wasn't crazy! Haha.

Now my friend is all pouty there's no "savage". Frankly I'm relieved because they would've nagged me into doing it, I ain't 'bout that title life.

[Drako]

Ya the term Savage is extremely misleading. It should just be called Alexander... and Alexander(Hard) to follow naming conventions, or (Expert). Not (Savage) What the heck they gonna call the actual Savage version(Savage+1?). I'm beginning to wonder if this is simply a localization team mix up, or a mistranslation. Anyone that is fluent in jp able to see what they are calling the raid, and how it compares to their naming conventions for previous raids?

[Whocareswhatmynameis]

Ya the term Savage is extremely misleading. It should just be called Alexander... and Alexander(Hard) to follow naming conventions, or (Expert). Not (Savage) What the heck they gonna call the actual Savage version(Savage+1?). I'm beginning to wonder if this is simply a localization team mix up, or a mistranslation. Anyone that is fluent in jp able to see what they are calling the raid, and how it compares to their naming conventions for previous raids?

They are using savage to announce that it's harder than extreme. harder than extreme primals and hopefully one day possibly extreme dungeons.

Normal is to announce it's similar to reg dungeons or crystal tower.

EDIT: Truthfully I really hope they add a lot more extreme level stuff. I have little desire to maintain a static for the savage modes if everyone doing the normal mode is getting a similar experience. Having lots of stuff on par with extreme primals would make me instantly more excited about heavensward though.