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    Reclaim land from inactive accounts post 3.0?

    With 3.0 coming out some inactive accounts will be reactivated some will not.
    Are there any plans to reclaim land from inactive accounts post 3.0?



    My wife and I have enough gil to get a small plot, and we want to get married IG, however we would like a house to share and currently there aren't any.

    I would hope this house cleaning per say would happen before adding any more zones.


    Edit
    Inactive is someone not paying for sub.
    Not someone who isn't logging in.
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    Last edited by CrystalRainbow; 06-04-2015 at 02:41 AM.

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    I fully support this!

    They need to implement the 31day inactivity penalty they mentioned once upon a time
    I've changed my stance on this a little in further posts but some people seem to get stuck on this. I cant say how long it should be but perhaps 31 days after the persons subscription runs out or something else. There needs to be some cut off period where houses are assumed abandoned. Without an unlimited amount of housing plots available you cant just keep a plot indefinitely. Just set up all items to be returned to the calamity salvager along with the reimbursement of funds. It doesnt matter when you set this line, some people wont be happy but we need it. why would someone need to keep their plot if they havent subbed in 3 years, yet someone who plays every day is homeless cause none are available. There also needs to be other restrictions like one house per account/player/character (take your pick).

    Regardless, the housing as it is needs some attention, its not utter garbage, but with SE adding in more content directly linked to it there are going to be people locked out of content for no other reason than just not being there in time. It becomes an unattainable goal.

    Quote Originally Posted by PantslessPrince View Post
    I thought they were adding plots? If that happens there won't be much need to reclaim.

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    I am against reclaims because I couldn't play for a year. If I had a house I would have been screwed.
    This is why i suggest the refund and placing items back in a salvager instead of disappearing into the ether cause I know 3.0 will bring back some players that may have taken an extended break.

    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalRainbow View Post
    As far as reimbursement of funds it would need to be minimum plot value returned not what was paid. This way it become a gil sink as well.
    ^^
    This

    Quote Originally Posted by Gralna View Post
    More than likely if they did this, they'd follow suit of pretty much every MMO I've played that had public housing, which was to give you a voucher for another plot/house of equal value to what you had.
    ^^
    and this, or some form of gil refund.
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    Last edited by MageBlack; 06-04-2015 at 01:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    I fully support this!

    They need to implement the 31day inactivity penalty they mentioned once upon a time. just set up all items to be returned to the calamity salvager along with the reimbursement of funds.
    A month is quite the short time considering how long most have to save to even be able to buy a house in the first place.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dree-Elle View Post
    You already forfeit leadership of a Free Company after 35 days, why should housing be any different? Play the game, or pay the price.

    ETA: Since people don't seem to get what I'm saying, let me put it this way: In real life, if you do not pay the rent, the landlord will evict you. The monthly subscription that you pay is your rent.
    In real life the landlord of a bought house is...you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Krylo View Post
    Yeah, and inactive people having housing locks everyone else out of gardening, chocobo training, house creation/decoration, and--soon to be--Airship exploration.

    You can't lock content out for active players to protect inactive players. It's asinine.
    Because everyone else wants to enjoy gardening, chocobo training, or house decoration, right?
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    Last edited by Aeyis; 06-04-2015 at 08:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    A month is quite the short time considering how long most have to save to even be able to buy a house in the first place.
    That I agree with, 6 months is plenty of time. Being able to keep the house is a reward for keeping subscribed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    In real life the landlord of a bought house is...you.
    In FFXIv, nothing is "yours" everything, including your character, everything on that character, your account, even the data on your computer that pertains to FFXIV is all the property of SE. So that analogy is irrelevant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    Because everyone else wants to enjoy gardening, chocobo training, or house decoration, right?
    Without housing available they don't have that choice.
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    Last edited by Sapphic; 06-04-2015 at 10:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    They need to implement the 31day inactivity penalty they mentioned once upon a time. just set up all items to be returned to the calamity salvager along with the reimbursement of funds.
    With you plan sure they would recieve some small reimbursement but you are screwing the person out of their plot and their hard work to aquire a plot and house.
    If they come back they no longer have a plot or the plots available to replace it which is why i dont see SE doing this.
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    I thought they were adding plots? If that happens there won't be much need to reclaim.

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    I am against reclaims because I couldn't play for a year. If I had a house I would have been screwed.
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    As far as reimbursement of funds it would need to be minimum plot value returned not what was paid. This way it become a gil sink as well.
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    If a reclaim system is implemented, I doubt SE would give you your gil back directly, since that would flood the economy, and also be a loophole to get around the gil sink if you ever decide you don't want a house anymore.

    More than likely if they did this, they'd follow suit of pretty much every MMO I've played that had public housing, which was to give you a voucher for another plot/house of equal value to what you had.
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    Meh, it's kind of a bad move to remove the plot from someone just because they're inactive. A lot of things can make you stay away from the game for more than a month. Does not mean they're not coming back.

    They just need to add more plots/make differences instances of the housing area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shamirah View Post
    Meh, it's kind of a bad move to remove the plot from someone just because they're inactive. A lot of things can make you stay away from the game for more than a month. Does not mean they're not coming back.

    They just need to add more plots/make differences instances of the housing area.
    I'm sure myself and many others who are in favor of a reclaim system for inactive accounts, would very much prefer that SE adds more plots. However as they've stated their difficulties with this, a reclaim system seems to be the best way to clear up plots for active subscribers. I will say though that 30 days is a quite a short amount of time, I'd be more comfortable with 90 or 180 days.
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