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  1. #11
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    Elinchayilani N'jala
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    Zodiark
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Viviza View Post
    True.





    Time has value. If you can earn money faster than you can mine it, you may as well do that, buy the mats, and come out ahead.
    This is true, but people in this thread are kind of forgetting that the OP still has to level his classes. Buying mats en large while leveling will only cost him large amounts of gil.

    In addition he would have to collect a lot of materials that he cannot sell (but also cant use since his crafters are already past that the level where they need them), making his DoL leveling time less effective.


    Time is money, and using own items still means you used their gil worth; thats only one side of the coin.
    The other side is that if you do have the time, then you can turn that time into money by gathering. And obtaining value without spending any that way.
    Crafting always costs money, the question is just whether you will obtain more from selling what you crafted then you originally invested.
    Starting from scratch, without a gathering buffer to fall back on (you can always gather materials for a craft yourself when you are short on gil funding) is not something I would advice for a leveling crafter that does not know his markets.
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    Last edited by Aeyis; 06-05-2015 at 12:45 PM.

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    Vik Ktototam
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelKode View Post
    Should I level my miner and fisher up to 50 before I continue crafting? Will this save money in the long run?
    Keep miner level near the levels of your craft classes. This will be enough. Fisher is optional - very few fishes are really needed in crafts.
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  3. #13
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    Raela Sarinelle
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    Cactuar
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    Scholar Lv 80
    I tried to be self sufficient as possible, so I kept my gatherers around the level of my crafters. My goal was to be able to always keep myself in the latest gear, hopefully HQ. I used GC turn ins as a major source of exp - for gathering, I'd aim for 10 HQ if I had the time, then the NQ was saved for crafting purposes.
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    Height Error
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alx789 View Post
    Keep miner level near the levels of your craft classes. This will be enough. Fisher is optional - very few fishes are really needed in crafts.
    There is one notable exception that I can think of off the top of my head though.

    Shark Oil. >_<
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  5. #15
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    Vik Ktototam
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    Quote Originally Posted by CGMidlander View Post
    There is one notable exception that I can think of off the top of my head though.
    Shark Oil. >_<
    Yes. This can be solved only when you will try to catch one of the first Big Fishes. Other ways are hard enough )
    But it is a very few market positions.
    Red Coral - too.
    Later (3-4 star crafts) - Rough Ouster + Razor Calm ( less than lvl 20). I send retainer to catch.
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    Last edited by Alx789; 06-06-2015 at 01:08 AM.

  6. #16
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    Goffard Gaffgarion
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 73
    Quote Originally Posted by Alx789 View Post
    Keep miner level near the levels of your craft classes. This will be enough. Fisher is optional - very few fishes are really needed in crafts.
    Yea it works out well if you level them simultaneously. DoL will feel like less of a level grind. May need to slow down on Leves though if you're allowances get low.

    And Shark Oil sucks even if you are a Fisher.

    Hammerheads are okay, but Silver Sharks are pain to gather considering all that work for one shark only == one oil.

    Either just buy the SSharks or level Fisher just with the intent of getting a Fisher retainer to gather them for you.

    It's a level 45~ gathering Venture, so will be awhile can get this set up. But Fisher retainer is nice. Gathering yourself as fisher is rather time consuming.
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    I personally leveled all gathering classes to 50 before started working on crafters because I do not like being restricted by what others have gathered and bothered to sell, sometimes at extreme prices. I would rather have the option of being both self sufficient and capable of avoiding being ripped off by getting my own when needed.
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  8. #18
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    Whiskey Bravo
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 100
    The thing is.. If you don't have a gathering class, you're always going to be stuck buying off mb. Those times when you only need 5 of something, but the only thing on mb is a stack of 99 for 30k gil.. Not easy for a beginning crafter to deal with. At least if you have them leveled it's easy to get a few things if needed, or a stack if needed. Then once you have some gil to play with it's not so bad buying off mb.
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  9. #19
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    Alya Mizar
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 72
    Pretty much everything you need for crafting will be gathered by a gathering class of the same level as the crafter.
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