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    Talec's Avatar
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    Violet Drakarys
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    Twintania
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    Summoner Lv 80

    So with all that MP DRK is gonna be new Flash AoE-Aggromonster?

    So DRK is gonna get Crossskills from PLD and WAR. And we know that DRK will have biggest MP Pool by far because it's his tanking-resource.

    Up until now all Crossskills were somewhat less usefull for Crossclasses. OK, the Paladin Crossskills have always been super important to WAR (like Provoke) but I'm thinking it's somewhat sad that DRK could become a better AoE-Aggromonster with a skill that's originally from PLD simple because he has a lot more MP to spam it.

    As a PLD I'm gonna shed a tear whenever I'm losing AoE Control to a DRK that spams more Flash than I'm able to do myself.

    Hope they adjusting Flash MP cost for DRK.
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    Gremms Foulke
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    From what information we have, this will likely be balanced out by the fact that DRK relies on its MP pool for the vast majority of its skills.


    A DRK who Flashes away all of their MP just to steal AoE hate likely will not hold that hate for very long, and will look like a very bad DRK.
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    Martin Arcainess
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    I dunno for sure how DRK works yet but if I wanted not MT I wouldnt waste all my MP on flash if MP was my main way of tanking.
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    Mother Vain
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    Gilgamesh
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    Reaper Lv 100
    I think it would be similar to a PLD spamming Flash. Sure there might be more, but it's a terrible way to hold aggro for anything other than maybe a big pull at a roulette.

    Flash will never hold a boss.
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    Violet Drakarys
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    As I wrote: AoE Control. Please don't all argue with single boss agroholding cuz that's not what I'm talking here.

    It's the situation like in FATEs or Crystal Tower or Coils like T4. As things are, WAR is already a better AoE controler than PLD but I was fine with that, because in my eyes PLD shines a little better for big Bosses. But if DRK is gonna surpass the PLD even with his own skill in terms of AoE Aggromanagement, it blows me off somewhat. Like if I'm gonna do FATEs or CTs successor in Heavensward I can stay in Sword Oath right from the beginning as I cannot hold grp of Mobs against WAR or DRK anyway.
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    Sileas Goode
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    Hyperion
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    Culinarian Lv 51
    Which current tank isn't an aoe aggro monster? Sure, before they buffed flash, I actually had to work harder at managing MP as pld but it wasn't that tough and after that buf, it was pretty smooth sailing. Don't need to flash as much, don't have to go to the point of OOM, can slot in more riot blades as a result, alternating riot blade and flash is safer, can finish fights with more mp. I mean, sure warrior does it even better, especially when they also use flash to juggle their mp/tp ratios so that they're always generating aggro in every pull but as far as I have experienced, the challenge in dungeons aren't the aggro but mitigation management.
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    Delferia Seule
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    I'd rather have a DRK that focuses on DRK skills that likely deal damage, than an enmity generator like flash. It may be useful as a skill to pick up adds, but I doubt it's going to be DRK's go to skill for managing enmity.
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    Last edited by Seryl199; 06-04-2015 at 12:17 AM.

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    Habien Landwaker
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Seryl199 View Post
    DRK, in it's tanking stance, can only recover MP with certain abilities, and will be unable to recover MP otherwise. I'd rather have a DRK that focuses on DRK skills that likely deal damage, than an enmity generator like flash. It may be useful as a skill to pick up adds, but I doubt it's going to be DRK's go to skill for managing enmity.
    Grit, the tanking "stance", doesn't drain mp or block mp from being regenerated. Darkside is the ability that does that. They can be used at the same time apparently. I agree with everything else though, flash seems like it will be as irrelevant for DRK as it is for WAR (more so actually, since DRK has a use for their mp).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Habien View Post
    Grit, the tanking "stance", doesn't drain mp or block mp from being regenerated. Darkside is the ability that does that. They can be used at the same time apparently. I agree with everything else though, flash seems like it will be as irrelevant for DRK as it is for WAR (more so actually, since DRK has a use for their mp).
    Correct, was just coming back to edit that before anyone picked up on it. Shame on you, beat me to it!
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    Yoko Ceres
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Hard Slash -> Siphon Strike -> Delirium Blade
    Damage Only -> Restore MP -> Applies Debuff to Enemies
    To me, he can spam flash, then use that combo that applies debuff to enemies to keep hate on foes while restoring his MP. looks like a good AoE tank for adds.
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