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    Player Akiza's Avatar
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    Rhel Eryut
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    Eh. I found the interview you're talking about. While they do mention the hybrid role in it, that interview is also really old and outdated. I'm kinda leaning toward taking it with a grain of salt since plans for things like that can change really fast if they decide that it's not going to work out. We already know that hybrid roles aren't due out for the Heavensward expansion since they've already announced the new classes available for that, and they all fit quite squarely into the Holy Trinity. Either it's fallen by the wayside or it's something that's been pushed to the next expansion, neither of which is difficult to believe. It was mentioned in the recent Time Magazine interview, but all he really cited was the difficulty of making it balanced and mentions the possiblity of a "skill tree". He does mention Red Mage is one of his favorite jobs, but that could mean we're getting it as a hybrid role or that it's just being adapted as a pure DPS. Hell, it could just mean he likes dropping bread crumbs to see what conspiracy theories we come up with.



    "Part of the masses" =/= "The masses". If they think it's only going to appeal to a small portion of the playerbase, they're probably not going to do it. If you need confirmation, just look at the design choices they made with Au Ra. :3



    How is it a hybrid job? Having Raise, E4E, Virus, and a really crappy Physick doesn't make you hybrid. o.O
    Summoner is a combination of Black Magic and Summoning Magic with a little bit of White Magic. Red Mage is a combination of Black Magic and White Magic with En Spells.
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    Tomoe Pendragon
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    Lamia
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    Summoner is a combination of Black Magic and Summoning Magic with a little bit of White Magic. Red Mage is a combination of Black Magic and White Magic with En Spells.
    Except that it's usually a combination of white and black magic, as well as melee damagce dealing. En spells are an example of giving them white/black magic, because they allow their melee attacks to deal magic damage.
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    Omega Novaios
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    Summoner is a combination of Black Magic and Summoning Magic with a little bit of White Magic. Red Mage is a combination of Black Magic and White Magic with En Spells.
    RDM is a combination of White Magic, Black Magic, and Physical Capabilities (both offensive and defensive). I would describe RDM as 1/3 WHM, 1/3 BLM, and 1/3 WAR.

    However in FFXI, RDM also combines White Magic and Black Magic to create spells that neither can cast alone such as Gravity, Refresh, Phalanx, etc. with the addition of being able to cast all spells more quickly. It has things that make it unique in addition to borrowing skills from other jobs.

    Last but not least RDM has also learned to channel his magic through weapons effectively and should be able to absorb more blows w/o interruption making the already unique combination of White/Black magic even more distinct with combat casting.

    So ultimately I would say RDM is 1/4 WHM, 1/4 BLM, 1/4 WAR, and 1/4 Awesome.
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    Summoner is a combination of Black Magic and Summoning Magic with a little bit of White Magic. Red Mage is a combination of Black Magic and White Magic with En Spells.
    Eh. When someone talks about a "hybrid job" that to me is a job that blurs the Holy Trinity's role lines. It ultimately doesn't matter that Summoner has access to both Black magic and Summoning magic since those both amount to the same thing in this game - a pure DPS class. When I talk about hybrid classes, I'm meaning something closer to a tank/dps or support/dps. The closest thing we really have to hybrid jobs right now are Scholar and Bard.
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    Last edited by Ashkendor; 06-04-2015 at 02:00 PM.