What do you want to see on Astrologian?

[Brightshadow]

Chi wave from wow with an appropriate name.

[Cynfael]

ACT was originally an eq2 tool. Fun fact. Was unaware FFXIV generated an external combat log that ACT could read, though I haven't paid much attention.

What I want to know about AST... What cross class to use? I know conj/thaumaturge but what spells? Same boring stuff sch/whm already cross from both?

Going to say yes on that because there are no other useful cross-class skills. It's not like you'll be wanting to cross Cure.

[416to305]

Okay well there's no way that the new role can have any reliance on using your cards on a low DPS or high DPS since for one thing those apps are against the game rules, and secondly they are only for PC players meaning someone on PS3 or PS4 can't even use them. I play on PS4, so can't really see there being any way that you'd be required to use cards based on someone's DPS output when you're not even supposed to be able to see that. Someone in an instance yelling at you saying "stop using your cards on so and so their DPS output is too low" could result in a ban if reported to a GM since the GM would message them asking how they knew that players DPS was low vs high without using a parser.

[LycorisSelunis]

Chi wave from wow with an appropriate name.

I would like Prayer of Mending too, personally...That spell is so darn good. :/ about every healer I miss from WoW has something about their spell or style that I miss which is why I am so happy a new healer is coming. I played every healer in that game and I was just dying for some more diversity, although I like how the whm and sch are very different they are still only two.

As for the high dps with no parser....Well there are certain visual cues I imagine. If you see one dps on your party burning down mobs and constantly in animations and the other one is kinda looking around at the scenery, or lagging or something, pretty easy to assume one is doing more dps.

[Nadirah]

Yeah it appears AST is getting a version of beacon of light which I found obnoxious to use when it had a duration on it. Made a focus target macro for it and just went from there, keeping it on the tank.

As for cross class... Gods I wish it wasn't swiftcast/cleric stance/protect for every damn healer. No variety. Boring as piss.

[sharazisspecial]

AST has a damage spell called Gravity
This spell should not miss because how can Gravity miss??

[loreleidiangelo]

Yeah it appears AST is getting a version of beacon of light which I found obnoxious to use when it had a duration on it. Made a focus target macro for it and just went from there, keeping it on the tank.

As for cross class... Gods I wish it wasn't swiftcast/cleric stance/protect for every damn healer. No variety. Boring as piss.

The only thing I found rather bizarre was that they get Swiftcast as a cross-class (and virtually nothing else of use from BLM), considering that they already have a "built-in" Swiftcast via Lightspeed...

I feel like CNJ/ACN would have brought more utility. Like it or not, Cleric Stance is useful, same with Protect and Stoneskin. Until they start building similar skills into new healer toolkits like they did with Swiftcast and Lightspeed, they'll continue to be the bread-and-butter for most healing jobs.

[Nadirah]

Or stop making them class specific and hand them out baseline.

Or remove cross class skills.

Or something. There's no variety anywhere. TP users, if you can get invigorate, you *will* get it. Same goes with swiftcast.

Arguably Cleric Stance isn't mandatory but there isn't anything useful to take. Its like my bard taking haymaker...

[Nadirah]

And if it was CNJ/ARC(which we have for both other healers) that "more utility" would be: virus and e4e.

Gotta come up with something better than that. Everyone cross classing the exact same things is *boring*.

[loreleidiangelo]

And if it was CNJ/ARC(which we have for both other healers) that "more utility" would be: virus and e4e.

Gotta come up with something better than that. Everyone cross classing the exact same things is *boring*.

If they're not the "same" moves, it'll just be similar moves that do close to the same thing, or else certain jobs will be left out of specific content due to not having this-or-that. Why do you think with the introduction of AST that SCH and WHM got some skills that made them operate somewhat similar to one another? Instant cast heals on WHM, stronger AOE heals for SCH. The homogenization is real.