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  1. #41
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    MythToken's Avatar
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    Iam Groot
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Most likely scenario ends up being
    WAR - offensive tank, with self healing
    PLD - defensive tank, shields and stuff
    DRK - somewhere in between
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  2. #42
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    Kuurei's Avatar
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    Kurei Hitaka
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    Diabolos
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    White Mage Lv 80
    PLD seems to be getting more defined, honestly. AoE block, Heal to self and ally, etc. Turning into the more defensive tank. I feel like we'll bit sitting in ShO a lot more for the increased defenses and emnity, rather than opting to switch to SwO. Finally got the dance down for that too...lol.

    WAR sounds like it's defining it's OT role a lot more too, seeing as they're getting their own version of SwO in the expac, plus they've always been much heavier hitters.

    Might be that DRK fills whichever role is not being filled, or might even end up being a more valuable magic tanker. Do we even know what it's debuff does? Says 'weakens' last I looked.
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  3. #43
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    Draciella Karla
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    Phoenix
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    From how ive seen 95% of fcob go so far, pld's group shielding/healing could hardly be noticed. Heres my reasoning. Most Whm's worth their salt solo heal the majority of fights, with Sch dropping a lustrate here and there, an adloq or two no problem. However; how many healers have time to stop casting all together or weave in a dot IF they spot themselves or their healing partner land a crit heal? Non existant im sure. With precasting things like Adloq's/ succors along with medica/ medica2 selective party help will be of limited use. Besides, sharing a shield and heals with those near by to me, sounds more like an off tank buff? Mixing with the melee's/ stacked with party.
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  4. #44
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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuurei View Post
    Might be that DRK fills whichever role is not being filled, or might even end up being a more valuable magic tanker. Do we even know what it's debuff does? Says 'weakens' last I looked.
    Source: Famitsu translation

    Seems like Delirium Blade weakens an enemy though it is currently still being finalized in terms of it's effects. Honestly I'm not sure what else they can bring. WAR has 10% dmg reduction and slashing and 20% heal reduction. PLD has 10% str down. I'm guessing either a vulnerability debuff or and int down debuff, though monk already has that with Dragon Kick. It's also not the first time we have an instance where a dps and tank shared the same enemy debuff with nin and war both able to reduce slashing resistance and overwrite each other.
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  5. #45
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    Iam Groot
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    Warrior Lv 60
    I would be disappointed if Delirium blade didn't do something different. I am sure they have something awesome in mind.
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  6. #46
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    Hazel Mimelia
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    Gilgamesh
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    Archer Lv 70
    Let's see what hasn't been used. Something that can have 100% up time.
    enemy magic resistance down
    VIT down (OP lol)
    Accuracy down
    evasion down (putting that on rain of death is stupid)
    Critical rate down
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    Last edited by melflomil; 06-05-2015 at 12:09 AM.

  7. #47
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    Robin Ster
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Evasion down is useful but takes planning to really be able to use. Also dangerous if you lose the DRK to adds or something and now no one can hit stuff.
    Blind/Accuracy doesn't appear to do anything to BCOB stuff, tanks never dodge anything. It seems likely that would continue so acc down is pretty useless.
    Crit down won't do much.

    I think it'll be a minor vulnerability up.
    The other two I think are likely are int-down or even just exactly Storm's Path's 10% damage down. In either case it won't stack.

    The other thing is they might end up with two debuffs, like the WAR. In that case I'm sure one will overlap with something else.
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  8. #48
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    increase in 10% the HP you recibe for skills like inner beast or bloodbath meaby? that be a good debuff.
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  9. #49
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    Draciella Karla
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Monk doesn't have a dmg buff from any class yet. With that hulking sword, it maybe a blunt resistant debuff for dkn and monk. Never know
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  10. #50
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    Kurei Hitaka
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    Diabolos
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    White Mage Lv 80
    TBH, could see them "exposing" the enemy's armor with their sword, rendering them more vulnerable to either Magic or Crushing, maybe even both.
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