A more summonery Summoner

[Volker_Mateus]

1. When rouse/spur/enkindle is used the egi takes on a bigger form and/or they change into a much smaller version of their original primal.
2. new summons ramuh caster dps shiva tank leviathan melee dps adding glamour only to corresponding summons emerald carbuncle can only be glamoured with garuda topaz only with Titan. It doesn't make sense to have titan or ifrit cast wind magic and vice versa.
3. summon I, II, and III are different class types while picking the egi to summon via the pet window. example- summon I is a caster DPS, summon II gives pets tank ability set and, summon III melee DPS. in pet window you choose a form the egi will take garuda/titan/ifrit/leviathan/ramuh/shiva all those will have a set of caster abilities that are the element of the egi, I feel this could be a better option to use any pet you wish and have it serve the type of role you want it to play. all they would have to do is change the skin of abilities not hard to do.

[Volker_Mateus]

4. going along with number 3 give the summoner stances (since it seems all jobs are getting different stances) that choose the egi instead of pet window that enhance the summoner/party depending on the egi/stance used. but you may run into only one egi being used more than others due to stance. Changing stance could also change your egi to that element. Example- in garuda stance gives spell speed to summoner but a big attack is about to happen switch to titan stance egi changes to titan and you get DEF boost
I personally enjoy summoner and feel SE did a great job coming up with this class. But there are a few things that are a bit disappointing as with all jobs. its my favorite job out of all the series. but just changing the skin just doesn't do it for me.. I really think option 3 is a pretty good idea.

[Higashikata]

1) What would the bigger and better primals do?

2) What would be different about them that would set them apart from ifrit/garuda/titan egis? We need quality over quantity, there's already almost no reason to ever not use ifrit egi.

3) There's already an egi glamour system in the works

4) Bahamut Trance will give the summoner a damage increase along with allowing the use of abilities bahamut himself uses. Elements in this game do nothing so switching "Egi stance" to a different element would be useless.

[Skeith-Adeline]

I have a hard time understanding the purpose of this. Are these personal ideas as to what you'd like to see happen? I can tell you that not any will come to fruition.

[FyrmurlFloerasksyn]

What's it with summoners and bigger primals?

[Leigaon]

What's it with summoners and bigger primals?

the vocal minority is pushing for summoners to have more "classic" summons. They don't care about the actual problems that needed to be addressed for the actual job. A lot of SMN are just fine with the job, both in terms of how it functions as a DOT based job or how it looks, to a certain extent at least.

Most of the SMN mains are willing to see what these new abilities give us in terms of damage output or what the egi's will do. The people who like summoner for what it does and can do are either too busy playing or have ran out of gas trying to explain how a monster summon won't make things better. You can make a detailed summoning action of Ifrit Egi that is like a mini version of him, turns the sky into fire and declares he is here in chat box for all to see, but in the end if he still has the ability that gives just himself counter..what has really changed?

I believe the egi's aren't great, actually while I was playing first time through I thought it would be nice if we got lesser summons, like what we had out in FFXII. We didn't, but that won't make me change my job. Some will change to BLM, those are the fan boys, some will stay on summoner and complain about how the egi's just don't look right. I dunno, I've ran out of fumes for this. As a person who mains summoner, I am a bit ashamed of the SMN vocal community and what they ask to change. I just don't want the teams to start focusing on the looks of the job needed some actual foundation rework.

I am very excited for 3.0 I am happy with what I have seen so far. I believe the egi battle should be fought after the dealings with the actual job mechanics. But, I'm done we can let the masses beg for their new awesome looking pets, who knows..maybe they'll get them. Good luck to you SMN's in 3.0!

[pandabearcat]

Overcompensating?

[Volker_Mateus]

No its just an idea. I've just been reading too many post of people complaining that they wanted more egis and such its mostly cosmetics with size issue other people seem to have. The whole just glamouring your pet to look like another with the same abilities is pretty lame and lazy imo. I don't have a problem seeing garuda all the time and I don't really care about the size. Just tired of people saying this class isn't good just because of cosmetics. Personally I think 3 is a pretty good option to have a egi play any role and people would get to decide the skin. Just an idea.

[Fatshine]

Jesus Christ, as a Summoner main, SMN on this forum are annoying as hell. There are like 20 posts every week about SMN. Everyone, please for the love of god, wait 3 weeks for Heavensward to play with the shinies. I feel like I'm in the minority that loves the job as it is and is excited for what's coming.

[Sen_Terrechant]

Jesus Christ, as a Summoner main, SMN on this forum are annoying as hell. There are like 20 posts every week about SMN. Everyone, please for the love of god, wait 3 weeks for Heavensward to play with the shinies. I feel like I'm in the minority that loves the job as it is and is excited for what's coming.

Omigod i know. Its terrible.

You just know that 90% cant even play SMN well, let alone to its highest potential yet they constantly have 'opinions' on it.