Poll: Gear progression, horizontal or vertical?

[Krylo]

From this post, almost everyone that is voting horizontal is doing so because they don't like having to grind a new set of tomestone gear. So, don't make a new set of tomestone gear and they won't have to grind it. I'm genius!

Then they will have more time to do other things, like raid, or craft, or chocobo race, or triple triad tourneys, or iono ERP or something.

I'd argue those people aren't casual. Just. . . uh, I can't think of a nice way to say it, so I won't.

But complaining about farming tomestones for new gear every few months as a direct upgrade per class is too much but farming multiple gear sets for every class that you need to have and keep on you because fights are balanced around having different set ups along the horizontal progression OR it just being the same thing but with more math if fights aren't set up that way. . . well it's something.

I mean it's basically "I hate grinding gear! Make me grind more gear!"

[Ultimatecalibur]

How would they make new and interesting gear with vertical progression? Its the same item with the same stats, but just bigger numbers.

^Its not a problem of the gear system, but gearing itself. Altho horizontal would actually make it easier; since you can provide more options at the same ''ilvl''.

Vertical progression makes new gear desirable* by having it be better in most cases that previous gear and also having different models. Horizontal progression has a tendency of making only a few pieces desirable until better pieces appear.

*Not interesting. Interesting is a bad term. Anything can be interesting if it is different than normal. A left side tank piece with +Mind +Spellspeed would be interesting, but not desirable.

[Otoha]

Funny how most of the people choosing vertical say "oh it's because with horizontal I might get excluded from content"; when the only content you might get excluded from, you probably don't even do to begin with. The main reason they want vertical is because they want to feel strong with their big numbers.

Btw, Horizontal

[elemental10]

[Sapphic]

But remember that having fun and playing well are 2 entirely different things.
Altho having fun does actually increase your performance by a lot.

Maybe for you they are, many find fun in pushing their ability as much as they can, or optimising their build/rotations. I find challenging content where I have to fully push my playing ability to meet the requirements to progress and pass said content. Just because you don't doesn't mean everyone else doesn't, thinking that is just being egotitstical as if your opinion is universal.

Easy content I find dull.

[Sapphic]

Funny how most of the people choosing vertical say "oh it's because with horizontal I might get excluded from content"; when the only content you might get excluded from, you probably don't even do to begin with. The main reason they want vertical is because they want to feel strong with their big numbers.

Btw, Horizontal

I want it to stay with vertical gear progression and in a static that cleared all (except savage) pre nerf. Plus I've experienced first hand with XI how the so called "Horizontel" progression was pretty much an illusion because of the preferred build for each gear swap and base sets.

Vertical progression makes new gear desirable* by having it be better in most cases that previous gear and also having different models. Horizontal progression has a tendency of making only a few pieces desirable until better pieces appear.

Which is vertical progression as you are replacing gear with higher level gear. Albeit not every piece initially.

[Twilite]

Ok question for Nektulos-Tuor: Why you don't want FFXIV to be FFXIV ?

[ruskie]

Hybrid would be good. I'd like to see less of a gear treadmill and more of content to use the gear on as well - having special distinct stuff in gear sets... couldn't care less. Think it would just limit the playerbase to much unless there's a more reliable way to get it instead of RNG madness.

[silentwindfr]

i will vote Hybrid, too much of either vertical or horizontal is bad for the game.

[Allistar]

Hybrid over all...gives something for everyone.