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  1. #41
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    Nikita's Avatar
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    Her Majesty
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    Excalibur
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    Summoner Lv 60
    If this were FFXI, horizontal.

    This is FFXIV though, and stat options are not as robust. It doesn't even make sense to consider horizontal. There's only so many stat combinations you can make on armor throughout the life of an expansion before you're forced to start copying the same combinations just to please people that can't get over the last FF MMO.

    So, vertical.
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  2. #42
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    NadienKirisame's Avatar
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    Nadien Kirisame
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    stuff
    Though I'm not making any elite argument nor am I telling anyone you must be pushing 200%. Do you know why? Because I don't need you to push 200% unless you have fun doing that and that is your thing then have fun with it. I do expect people to give a good run and I do expect people to have fun and put forth their best effort however if due to your choices in gear set up (because these look so UBER!!) you are actually pulling less then what you should be pulling and we can no longer win the fights and now no one else is having fun because of your choice... well not sure what to tell you maybe you need to think about others as well as your self when you are playing an MMO.

    Also this is about gear and not skill and in some cases because you don't have the right gear even though your are super L337Z0RZssss skilled you still don't do half what others are doing... Should everyone just go "awww it is ok he was having fun even though we wiped 500 times because well he just couldn't put out enough because of the gear he had and we couldn't make up for that loss."

    Also I'm the last one to tell someone how to play their character you can play how you wish but those other guys... yeah they probably wont let you play with them...

    Also I have been in the situations before where we should not have won the fight we should have failed and hell everyone else was dead but me and I finished off the boss because well I just knew what the hell I was doing... Sometimes those moments should feel great but then you think... I really should not have had to do that we should have been fine and we should have had no issues but for some unknown reason this guy over here is only doing half of what the others are doing. You check that guy out and his spec is all odd and your not even sure how it even works and his gear is this mess of things you would never even think to put together. What do you do? Just let it go because you won in the end even though you know deep down you really would have lost?

    Also because I didn't use also enough... >.>

    The cat is bemused =-.-=
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    Last edited by NadienKirisame; 05-31-2015 at 01:12 PM.

  3. #43
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    Rino Bakaro
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    How about diagonal? Or better yet... circular.
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  4. #44
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    Fate Bringer
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Fortified View Post
    How about diagonal? Or better yet... circular.
    How about inverse? level 1 gear is the best in the game and never needs to be replaced. Level 60 gear is total trash. Oh crap I shouldn't give people on these forums any ideas.... sorry
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    Last edited by Whocareswhatmynameis; 05-31-2015 at 01:31 PM.

  5. #45
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    Rashi Shadowblade
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis View Post
    How about inverse? level 1 gear is the best in the game and never needs to be replaced. Level 60 gear is total trash. Oh crap I shouldn't give people on these forums any ideas.... sorry
    Make all the gear glamour items, and you invert that system as well, so they can only glamour over earlier leveled items. BUT, they still have the same iLevel they do now, and you still have an iLevel requirement to enter later dungeons and raids. IT'S BRILLIANT! SE get to work on it right now.....

    1: Completely change the item system functionality.
    2: Ignore people complaining about the changes.
    3: ???
    4: PROFIT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TouchandFeel View Post
    Strangely enough, if you assume the OP is from a parallel universe, it all makes sense.
    ...
    That or they are just spouting gibberish.

  6. #46
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    Shuu Naranol
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    Omega
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    Summoner Lv 100
    I'm really not sure how it would work best, but I do know I'm kind of worn out (no pun intended) with this continuous item level climb - by the time you'd finish a set, you can throw it all away because, hey, replacement with "more better everything" is here. And the fact that we can have i130 now, which is more than double (closer to triple) of our actual level cap, with the latest "relevant" (ie. story) content having an ilevel requirement of 90 (which was I think the top when the game launched?)..... I'd say it's kinda ridiculous. And all the gear sets in-between that, that they designed and put in dungeons to drop, and nobody using them, and if they do it's mostly just for glamour and taking up inventory space (which is admittedly also troublesome)....... I don't mind this slow-down we have now until Heavensward, to be honest.
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  7. #47
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    Kori Fleming
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    Vertical progression, with more horizontal progression options.

    Also secondary stats that actually matter.

    okbye
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  8. #48
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    Sylkis Tea
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    Sophia
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by BreathlessTao View Post
    but I do know I'm kind of worn out (no pun intended) with this continuous item level climb - by the time you'd finish a set, you can throw it all away because, hey, replacement with "more better everything" is here.
    That's the inescapable consequence of vertical progression unfortunately
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  9. #49
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    Findel Taralom
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    Adamantoise
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    Ninja Lv 73
    I cast my vote on hybrid. Would be nice if 3.0 alternated patches between horizontal and vertical. And no, CT or CT equivalent is not horizontal gear progression. It's a stepping stone for vertical progression.
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    Daranion Thronir
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    Adamantoise
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Damn, people just can't ignore debate bait can they? I'll tally all the votes up every 24 hours and update the OP with a continual count, but shoot, so many people either starting debates or voting for silly options.
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