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  1. #81
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    nuyu11's Avatar
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    Kokotsu Kotsu
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    Quote Originally Posted by GenJoe View Post
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    Yeap agreed you have your right to voice your opinion...
    Some people only think that their thoughts are wisest and others are wrong.
    This also happen to pro raider who belittle some player who prioritize their crafting as their main gameplay.
    You're not a minority here dude, I've met plenty of player who don't know anything about the lore,
    mainly they just skip it and not bother to watch them back at Inn, but they never forced me to skip it.
    Most of them are hardcore player.
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  2. #82
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    Kuroneko_Jutah's Avatar
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    Kuroka Jyuuta
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Dicejss View Post
    Gimme gimme gimme!
    I don't want my sub money used to pander to lazy people. There are better uses for dev time.
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  3. #83
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    Mugiawara's Avatar
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    Yoku Dekimashita
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    Faerie
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    Quote Originally Posted by nuyu11 View Post
    Most of them are hardcore player.
    You're probably right. I'm not hardcore, I'm in the middle
    but me and my friends [Who are all ranges] skipped the story
    solely because it's boring as hell.
    Edda, Hilde, LEVEL 40 Scions MSQ, a few unlockable quests, CT and the ending MSQ are the most notable ones
    I've watched. I rather play the game and not read into this games bland story telling.
    I hate the Scions with a passion and
    hope they are dead...Not Yda and Papalymo though. Seriously, team us up
    with Lady Iceheart, Alphinud and Eienstin [SP]? I seen him in the trailer so who knows...I want new people.

    Actually...most things that have to do with the Scions bore me to tears because they are so monotonous.
    The Roe, I forgot her name who was lively dies in 4 like scence's...sucks.
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    Last edited by Mugiawara; 06-04-2015 at 12:30 PM. Reason: Added.

  4. #84
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    Dicejss's Avatar
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    Dinah Rosso
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroneko_Jutah View Post
    I don't want my sub money used to pander to lazy people. There are better uses for dev time.
    I'm not lazy I just refuse to things devs put in mmorpgs specifically to take a while just so we play the game longer to continue paying our subs. That is not dev time that is "hey let's make this relic quest more grindier than the last one" mentality. Yes I know they need the money to continue developing the game to make it bigger and better. That doesn't excuse them for adding long draw out "gimmicks" I guess you can say just like a ftp mmorpg uses immensely.

    I'm not saying take the story out, I'm not saying make the main scenario story optional to progress (although that can be a pain in some regards), I'm just saying everything shouldn't be locked on the prerequisite of having done some fetch and talk to this npc quests to unlock so many things in the game. If you weren't aware of such quests the only way you'd find out about them is if someone tells you or you happen to research it beforehand knowing about the quests.
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    Last edited by Dicejss; 06-04-2015 at 12:43 PM.

  5. #85
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    Madsamurai's Avatar
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    Miyavi Dunamis
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    Tonberry
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    It may take time to unlock content and the content may never be unlocked if you deliberately just grind xp through other means rather then experience the story but that's the intention and the design from the development team to encourage people to make sure they do the story and unlock these dungeons as a sort of unveiling and reward for getting there. Because it forces the player to unlock it before they can progress the story therefore there will always be people queuing for the dungeon. And such design helps in certain ways as well like controlling floods of noobs into the new expansion areas because only the ones who finishes the main story up till 2.55 are given access to Ishgard, which i think is great for now since it's just the 2nd expansion.
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  6. #86
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    Madsamurai's Avatar
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    Miyavi Dunamis
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    Tonberry
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    -Continued from above-

    Unlike a certain other MMO which boosts new players or returning players into the expansion content and having it's servers pretty much unplayable for 2 weeks and then letting it's players burn out content within a month because well.. nobody cares for the bulk of earlier story content. All they need to do is give players an incentive to go back to older dungeons and content so new players into the series will not be experiencing a drought of players in DF for completing old content.
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  7. #87
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    Darkshaunz's Avatar
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    Koko Hekmatyar
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    I must have missed some news regarding HW, but where are people getting the idea that the level synch removal applies to ARR raids?
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  8. #88
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    Fatshine's Avatar
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    Magnus Valerius
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    Ultros
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dicejss View Post
    Yes I would have, because 99% of the time people skip the cutscenes and could care less about the lore of a dungeon they just want to run it for the tomes or drops. The Main scenario is mediocre at best anyways its nothing compared tot he stories of FF7, FF9, or FF10.
    Just because you don't care, find it a bother, therefore assuming 99% of people skip and don't care about the story, doesn't mean that every quest should be removed to unlock content. That is beyond idiotic. Please get over yourself. There are many that are lore lovers. That's like me saying I love lore (which I do) therefore there should be a quest to unlock character creation. WHO IS CREATING MY CHARACTER! Am I god? Just no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhex View Post
    Why would you pay for a game, to pay an RMT, to pay other players to play the game for you?

  9. #89
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madsamurai View Post
    All they need to do is give players an incentive to go back to older dungeons and content so new players into the series will not be experiencing a drought of players in DF for completing old content.
    What the FF XIV devs already plan to do in Heavensward.
    Beginning with putting the lv51-59 dungeons into the same roulette as the lv 17-49 dungeons. Everyone who do the roulette once every day to level up (pre 50 and post 50 jobs) will still playing together.
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  10. #90
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    Owatatsumi Kami
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    Yet Final Fantasy has ALWAYS been about the story and it surprises you that they continue in the same vein as, not just every single player Final Fantasy, but their earlier MMORPG FFXI. Which, if you had played would know that the main content for the expansions are heavily story and cutscene based. Or even had any background experience with Final Fantasy games.

    Someone playing a FF MMO and NOT expecting it to be heavily story driven is playing the wrong game. There are plenty of bland no story Korean grind MMOs you can play, this isn't one of them. So either deal with it or realise Storycentric MMOs aren't for you.

    Albeit I will admit putting such long cutscenes during the 2.0 MSQ final dungeons was a mistake on SEs side. Whereas the main CS should be at the end so you can watch it at your pleasure.
    Give this person a cookie!
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