Why Removing Houses from inactive is NOT a solution.

[Naunet]

If people aren't here, they aren't here and deserve nothing. Screw the T-ball League of Life and Equality between the hardworkers vs lazy millennial crap. Why is this even a discussion.

Jeezus, you're a right pleasant person, aren't you. Good thing this is a video game and not real life. In a video game we can have things without reality kicking us in the face, as the goal is generally have fun.

Better design: Instance individual houses. Create neighborhoods voluntarily by connecting 2 or more individual houses together. People who care about neighbors get their community. People who want a more robust housing customization system can have that, because with individualized instances, there should be more server capacity for item limits and such.

[Syrehn]

Jeezus, you're a right pleasant person, aren't you. Good thing this is a video game and not real life. In a video game we can have things without reality kicking us in the face, as the goal is generally have fun.

Better design: Instance individual houses. Create neighborhoods voluntarily by connecting 2 or more individual houses together. People who care about neighbors get their community. People who want a more robust housing customization system can have that, because with individualized instances, there should be more server capacity for item limits and such.

The goal generally might be to have fun but... Dead neighbourhoods are not a community. Dead neighbourhoods are not fun.

Honestly it doesn't really matter what you want at this point (keep housing/instanced housing/etc.) because SE already stated they're going to be doing something about inactive properties and it's extremely unlikely they will change the current housing system this far into it.

[Neira]

I think it's foolish to claim that you can magically see dead houses everywhere. You can tell that the FC down the street is active, but you don't ever see anyone in the house next door? WOW! It must be a dead house, right? Well, or, it could be the fact that the ONE person who lives next door plays at different times than you compared to the DOZENS down the street in the FC. How are you people even deciding when something is dead?

Well, you look up the owner name, and they have no new achievements for months... um, maybe they just aren't actively working on achievements? Their gear or levels haven't changed... um, maybe they're socializing more than playing? Their garden doesn't have any plants... um, maybe they stopped gardening because they couldn't devote the time to it?

I'll say it again, that the number of houses that will become suddenly available is going to be small at first launch of this idea, and almost non-existent after it comes to fruition, because nobody wants to lose their investment. This is going to accomplish almost nothing but put more money in SE's pocket and make the naïve believers think they're trying to do something when their response to this situation is pitiful.

IT'S A MONEY-MAKING TACTIC, NOTHING MORE! They're telling home-owners "You can't take a break without paying us, or else we will take your house." And all of this is STILL just them pushing the blame onto the players so we don't focus on them and their horribly flawed system. And so many of you are taking the bait! It's ridiculous, and I can't believe that eviction and a loss of property(some property is NOT recoverable) is being met with cheers of joy.

Oh, and I forgot to add one, giant, resounding proclamation; DEAD COMMUNITIES ARE A RESULT OF HAVING PERSONAL HOUSING IN FC WARDS! Period. You can not have thirty people spread around a ward THAT large and expect the community to be "booming". The ONLY reason we all saw lively communities BEFORE personal housing was because it was FC ONLY HOUSING. Take off your silly rose-tinted glasses, think about who you usually see(almost always FC members, even now), remember when they were more lively(when it was mostly FCs only), and realize that your dreams of a community were crushed... BY SQUARE ENIX WHEN THEY FAILED TO IMPLEMENT PERSONAL HOUSING PROPERLY.

[JubjubTubs]

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You sound like someone that is going to snowball this current system with the intention of making it as terrible as possible so SE is then forced to do it your way. You will also pull numbers out of your ass without citing a statistical source of merit to justify your view... because that is somehow ethical and the 'right' approach. You will take a swing at someone by saying their are delusional as they wear rose-tinted glasses as you use a bunch of CAPS LOCK... all because their intention is to improve upon the current system, and cut away all the dead ends and useless trash of it.

Sorry Jubs is more social than you are. Sorry they haven't and aren't designing the housing system how you want them to do. Do you feel better now that someone said 'sorry' to you? It'll be ok. Rant some more and continue to make things up while you attack anyone trying to improve the current system... simply because the current system isn't the system you want it to be.

[JubjubTubs]

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Still smells like ass in here. Jubs going to add to the smell...

Jubs thinks that more than half the plots on every server is going to open up when they implement a system that removes those under ownership of inactive accounts. Where does Jubs get these numbers? Doesn't matter... this is an internet forum and to get things to go Jubs way, Jubs going to make up whatever Jubs want without backing it up in any way. And then Jubs going to attack people that think differently than Jubs does. Onto Phase Two....

[JoolzS]

Neira got it partially right. My previous FC bought a house in a desired area on a desired plot a few weeks after housing was added (on a not hugely populated server at that time). Our FC only EVER met people from other FCs who had houses near to the summoning bell nearest to our house. I will admit that I made some long term friends from having a house in that area, but that was sheer chance. I've made other long-term game friends from waiting on a relic FATE (and I don't think anyone thinks those were a good idea).

The FC that was friendliest with my old FC, because we shared a summoning bell (this was before they could be put in the house), left the server, and sold to another. They weren't particularly friendly to people outside of their FC, so it died off.

Just putting more people into the current housing areas isn't going to make them more community minded. I wandered into Idyllshire tonight to show off a glamour to a friend, and the /sh chat there was just nasty. Someone asked in shout what pentamelding was and got told to "google it", and "How did you get this far without knowing?". There is no community in the housing areas because there is very little community in the game outside of linkshells and FCs.