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  1. #11
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    Valkyrie-Amber's Avatar
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    what should happen with private owned houses is set them all in private owned wards and fc residential wards.

    In 3.0 FC housing will be a big thing with the airships and all and fcs on servers with no plots left could die causing lots of unhappy people.
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  2. #12
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    Taisai Jin
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    No, removing inactive players from wards is not a solution to the lack of land available. It's a step in the right direction though. People who simply aren't using the land they own shouldn't really have it. People who have quit definitely shouldn't be holding something over a paying customer. The developers should be taking steps to make it easier and more appealing for people who aren't using their land to move it on to someone else. That is the kind of change that should have been implemented very long ago, it isn't a solution but it is also only a benefit to everyone playing. The solution is adding more land, but they really should look at the obtuse sales system at some point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie-Amber View Post
    what should happen with private owned houses is set them all in private owned wards and fc residential wards.

    In 3.0 FC housing will be a big thing with the airships and all and fcs on servers with no plots left could die causing lots of unhappy people.
    No thanks, I like my house being next door to my Free Company Mansion.

    Also, while Airships will be big, it isn't like they'll be a case of "No house, no content", Yoshida has mentioned quite a few times that you'll be able to invite people to use your Free Company Airship/s without them having to be in your Free Company. There will also be a Free Company Alliance system. I don't think a lot of Free Companies will die over not having direct access.
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  3. #13
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    Frederick Chronos
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    There is someone in lamia with a fc house and he is the only person in that fc what a waste of a plot
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  4. #14
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    Yeldir's Avatar
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    Tatiana Thorne
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    Goldsmith Lv 70
    I like how Titor's "in-case-of-emergency" alternatives to real housing basically imply inferior content to placate the have-not rabble.

    Quote Originally Posted by Titor View Post
    What we should be pushing for is, instead of trying to take away from current homeowners, urging SE to put more priority into the housing system, by upgrading servers, opening new wards, or even creating additional housing systems to allow those without houses access to chocobo stables, gardening, and for FC's - soon to be airship crafting.
    Sure, I'm game. Just as long as your current place of residence is moved to the "additional system".

    As for your other suggestions, i.e., more wards, it has been discussed to death why that is a temporary fix. (In another year they'll all be filled with inactives, too.)
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  5. #15
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    Bathu'ra Lihzeh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeldir View Post
    I like how Titor's "in-case-of-emergency" alternatives to real housing basically imply inferior content to placate the have-not rabble.



    Sure, I'm game. Just as long as your current place of residence is moved to the "additional system".

    As for your other suggestions, i.e., more wards, it has been discussed to death why that is a temporary fix. (In another year they'll all be filled with inactives, too.)
    The big issue IS inactives. Most homes on my server that are abandoned ARE by people who are inactive. Most have been inactive for 4 months or longer based on their achievements and friends trying to add players throughout the day everyday for months. To combat this, inactives should lose their homes after a certain amount of time like Ultima Online does it still. This would keep housing available for PAYING SUBSCRIBERS. There is NO REASON at all for someone to go inactive for 4+ months. Chances are people who are gone that long are not intending to come back. Their homes should be back on the market for us paying customers, end of story.
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  6. #16
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    Pichichi Pichi
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    I only agree with the "paying customers" part of the argument. If the owner's account is inactive there should be a time limit.

    If they are paying but it seems they arent using the plot, too bad. Most of the "evidence" is no indication of what that person is doing with the house they obviously worked to get. FC with 1 member owning a home? its an alt, before personal housing was added it was the only way and I know several home owners who are alt characters. MB activity in the ward? proves nothing, there are many boards in the game and many decent sized FCs where members do not frequent the house because of owning their own house or having no interest.

    So sorry if you dont think some people deserve to keep their homes because you disagree with how they use it, but they earned the right to do so by paying and playing the game before you. I have a friend with a personal house and he doesnt have much time or resources to decorate it and to his neighbors maybe it seems its a wasted plot, but he still earned and paid for it himself so its none of their business.
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  7. #17
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    Titor Jaraba
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeldir View Post
    Sure, I'm game. Just as long as your current place of residence is moved to the "additional system".
    I would love for my house be moved to its own instance server. The wards feel excruciatingly dead as they are, especially the subdivision wards. At least in an a house instance I know it is supposed to be just me and my friends. Plus it eliminates the chance of trolls during crafting or roleplay (yes, I am on Balmung)

    I think people would be surprised with how often houses are used, even if you do not see it, people can be on during different timezones than you, log in just to check vends or craft real fast until expansions, or whatnot. I think the amount of truly inactive houses are very low.

    As for mortgages- I paid my house in full in-game up front. There is no loan to be repaid nor is the house not paid off.

    Other games are able to do dynamic wards were new wards are added as-needed (Or automatically give a house to all characters), short of a few server upgrades, I am not sure why SE cannot do this as well.
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    Tatiana Thorne
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    Well! That was a completely respectable and well thought-out response. Can't possibly argue. I hope we don't have to resort to instances, personally. I like the sense of community full, active wards provide.
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  9. #19
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    Tetsu Taru
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    while Airships will be big, it isn't like they'll be a case of "No house, no content", Yoshida has mentioned quite a few times that you'll be able to invite people to use your Free Company Airship/s without them having to be in your Free Company. There will also be a Free Company Alliance system. I don't think a lot of Free Companies will die over not having direct access.
    Yeah I'll hold my fucking breath.
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  10. #20
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    Tatiana Thorne
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    I will lose my god damned mind if they actually expect their player base to accept someone else's airship as a substitute for being forbidden to make their own, by no other force than SE's unwillingness to fix the housing debacle.
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