Surecast Enhancements, Please!

[Bhuni]

As a BLM I generally only need to swiftcast a spell once a minute or so anyway- if I'm being attacked I'm either in PvP where Surecast isn't awful and the enemy will just run behind me anyway, and you will always prefer Swiftcast to Surecast for anything like Thunder3, Fire3, Flare, Raise, etc- because it is a net increase in efficiency, due to it being faster as well. Even a traited Surecast doesn't make up for it's deficiencies, because the proc chance is so low.

Your knowledge about the skill and the class that uses it seems lacking. Do you yourself use Surecast? Because, no offense to you, but your posts in this topic seem to be antagonistic and provoking in nature and generally contradicts what every other person in it has said, save one person on the first page.

Because BLM is the only job that can use Surecast

[Kuurei]

Because BLM is the only job that can use Surecast

Atla has a point though, even if BLM isn't the only class that can use it. Never once used it over swiftcast on WHM, nor while leveling up Arcanist some. I even mentioned earlier that it's uselessness is made even worse by both skills being cross-classable by all DoMs.

You seem to just be antagonistic for the halibut, and no real other reason. Surecast is useless outside pvp.

[Bhuni]

Atla has a point though, even if BLM isn't the only class that can use it. Never once used it over swiftcast on WHM, nor while leveling up Arcanist some. I even mentioned earlier that it's uselessness is made even worse by both skills being cross-classable by all DoMs.

You seem to just be antagonistic for the halibut, and no real other reason. Surecast is useless outside pvp.

Turn 5's Fireball
Shiva's icicle AOE Rain
Ifrit and Garudas Ultimate attacks oddly enough you only get interupted in HM and not EX unsure about Titan.
Leviathans Ultimate attack think this one applies to EX only.
They're may be other attacks I'm not aware of.

It has some use outside of PVP not as prominent but it's not completely useless in PVE so erm yeah.

[kyuven]

Turn 5's Fireball
Shiva's icicle AOE Rain
Ifrit and Garudas Ultimate attacks oddly enough you only get interupted in HM and not EX unsure about Titan.
Leviathans Ultimate attack think this one applies to EX only.
They're may be other attacks I'm not aware of.

It has some use outside of PVP not as prominent but it's not completely useless in PVE so erm yeah.

4 attacks that you should either be dodging, or taking your actions before or after the attack goes off.
You don't need surecast for those, and none of those attacks are used often enough that swiftcast won't be up.

[Bhuni]

4 attacks that you should either be dodging, or taking your actions before or after the attack goes off.
You don't need surecast for those, and none of those attacks are used often enough that swiftcast won't be up.

Pray tell how you dodge a Primals ultimate I'd love to know lol

[kyuven]

Pray tell how you dodge a Primals ultimate I'd love to know lol

the word "or" was in my statement for a reason.
You dodge icicles, so you should only be eating one MAX and you should be moving during most of that phase anyway. Swiftcast is more valuable.
The others usually go off slowly enough that you don't need the maybe one extra spell you'd get off in the half second of the attack, during which the boss is either off the map (Levi) or invulnerable (Titan, Garuda, Ifrit)
And, again, swiftcast is better.

[Bhuni]

the word "or" was in my statement for a reason.
You dodge icicles, so you should only be eating one MAX and you should be moving during most of that phase anyway. Swiftcast is more valuable.
The others usually go off slowly enough that you don't need the maybe one extra spell you'd get off in the half second of the attack, during which the boss is either off the map (Levi) or invulnerable (Titan, Garuda, Ifrit)
And, again, swiftcast is better.

You seem to forget healers can also use Surecast you can heal through those certain attacks the moment you're hit by them under the effect of Surecast without being cancelled out of the cast instead of trying to time it right and risk being cancelled.

[StouterTaru]

Pray tell how you dodge a Primals ultimate I'd love to know lol

I'd like to know what you're getting interrupted casting during the 15 second window that the primal is invincible during its ultimate.

Healing? You have roughly 10 seconds before to top off HP and pre-buff, then 5 seconds after damage hits to get a spell off and get in place.

[Atlaworks]

Because BLM is the only job that can use Surecast

I never said they were? I included Raise in the example, as well. Black Mages simply tend to have the spells with the longest cast times; that's likely why the skill is native to their class. Thus, they make for a good example of it's uses. limited and inferior to swiftcast as they may be.

[Bhuni]

I never said they were? I included Raise in the example, as well. Black Mages simply tend to have the spells with the longest cast times; that's likely why the skill is native to their class. Thus, they make for a good example of it's uses. limited and inferior to swiftcast as they may be.

Your knowledge about the skill and the class that uses it seems lacking.

Yeah... Also if you read my posts carefully I mentioned you should be saving Swiftcast for Raise before your previous post, it's been fun but I'm done with this thread lol.