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    [dev1135] UI Adjustments - Equipment stat comparison

    Hi,
    I'm referring to the bullet point :-
    •When browsing gear offered by vendor NPCs or retainers, the attribute differences between your currently equipped gear and that being viewed will be displayed

    - I need to add the differences should be calculated based on the 'effective' stat (after equipped) on gear offered by Vendor / retainers as opposed to the item's 'original' stat.

    - A lot of times players needed to guess and risk buying the item and not knowing what the stats will be when equipped on their character ( either higher level than the item or lower level ).

    Example :-
    - I am level 10 wearing an item with 50 defense.
    - Someone selling an item of level 15 and with 60 defense.
    - The defense of the item will scaled down as it's not optimum.
    - Assuming that the defense of that item will be scaled down to 55 when I equip on my current level 10 char, the 'difference' should show "+5" instead of "+10".

    This give an idea immediately whether I should spend the gil on the item or not, as opposed to 'guessing' how it will scaled to my char and regret if it's not appearing the way I hoped it would.

    Please ensure this is done as opposed to comparison with the item's original stat. It will serve no purpose to show a difference of "+100" defense improvement and only to find later on that it will be scaled down to something worse than what I'm currently wearing.
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    There's an easy solution to this: wear gear which is the appropriate level for your character.
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    Ok for one, all this time the Dev team working on changing colors or adding colors in your pack is retarded, it makes little difference to the game mechanics that are seriously failing on this game. If the Dev team needs to make changes like this, they do not take into account players that suffer from color blindness, what its little more gray then the next piece? Icons, wasn't anything wrong with the existing ones, so why work on changing them? Waste of time. Seriously I was looking forward to updates like everyone else, but its stuff like this, the Dev team keeps wasting our time on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerycat View Post
    Hi,
    I'm referring to the bullet point :-
    •When browsing gear offered by vendor NPCs or retainers, the attribute differences between your currently equipped gear and that being viewed will be displayed

    - I need to add the differences should be calculated based on the 'effective' stat (after equipped) on gear offered by Vendor / retainers as opposed to the item's 'original' stat.

    - A lot of times players needed to guess and risk buying the item and not knowing what the stats will be when equipped on their character ( either higher level than the item or lower level ).

    Example :-
    - I am level 10 wearing an item with 50 defense.
    - Someone selling an item of level 15 and with 60 defense.
    - The defense of the item will scaled down as it's not optimum.
    - Assuming that the defense of that item will be scaled down to 55 when I equip on my current level 10 char, the 'difference' should show "+5" instead of "+10".

    This give an idea immediately whether I should spend the gil on the item or not, as opposed to 'guessing' how it will scaled to my char and regret if it's not appearing the way I hoped it would.

    Please ensure this is done as opposed to comparison with the item's original stat. It will serve no purpose to show a difference of "+100" defense improvement and only to find later on that it will be scaled down to something worse than what I'm currently wearing.
    You were one step ahead of me... I was about to post the same suggestion. (^_^ ) At the moment it's incredibly hard to distinguish if a Rank 15 item with +10 Defense is better for a Rank 10 class then a Rank 20 item with +15 Defense because we can't see what the scaled down Defense for a Rank 10 class, unless we would buy and equip both of them.

    Aerycat, you suggested that rather then displaying 60 Defense, you would rather see the scaled down 55 Defense on the item. They could also display a penalty if the item would be equiped on for a "less then optimal" rank. For instance, instead of displaying "Defense: 55", they could use "Defense: 60 - 5".

    That way you can see the Defense it would have when equiped for it's optimal rank, plus the penalty for equiping it on a class which is 5 ranks lower then it's optimal rank.

    What do you think?
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    great ideal Aldora
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    Quote Originally Posted by CTSwiftheal View Post
    great ideal Aldora
    I hope you mean "idea" CT. (^_~ ) /grin
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    Yes, Aldora. I was thinking in that direction ( where visibility for both values must be present 'original' and 'effective' ). So that I am aware of the full potential of this item I'm buying, and what is the performance I will be getting - at this point of time.

    So the suggestion is great!

    But I think showing the calculated 'difference' against the armor you're wearing gives you even greater idea whether to buy it or not.

    When the item is highlighted, your character status window should be brought up as well and to show something like :-
    Physical defence : 100 (5↑)
    Magical defence : 50 (10↓)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycloptichorn View Post
    There's an easy solution to this: wear gear which is the appropriate level for your character.
    lol No it's not a solution. Good luck keeping every single set of matching level equipment sets for each of your jobs. It's a different story for a person who has reached 50 for all jobs, but still there are a lot of ppl not reaching that yet...
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