Stancedancing Techniques

[Yumi_umi]

The best way to learn is to push your limits and fail. If anything, you aren\\'t failing enough.

The very best players will occasionally eat dirt BECAUSE they are pushing that boundary. They\\'re the ones that will get clipped by AOE pushing for an extra attack, or let the tank die because the heal came 0.1s too late, or not use a cooldown because they think they can take the hit -- and can\\'t. Then they adjust, and ride that line, because they know exactly where it is, and pull off some amazing play.

I agree this is what ppl should do, u can\\'t know ur limits till u possibly hit tht danger zone or go beyond it. Benediction should always be the safety net as its the last thing u can do to heal the tank before they die ( unless for whatever reason it fails to land ).
@ cynfael
Really u have to bring the tank gear up as a point? Tht has nothing to do with this. Is tht how low u need to stoop to?

[Cynfael]

@ cynfael
Really u have to bring the tank gear up as a point? Tht has nothing to do with this. Is tht how low u need to stoop to?

That wasn't me. Please direct your comment elsewhere :P

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This is beautiful coming from a WHM who thinks Tank accessories on a healer in PvE content is the best things since sliced bread. .-. If you're gonna do that, do it right and get hybrid accessories.

[Ghishlain]

The best way to learn is to push your limits and fail. If anything, you aren't failing enough.

The very best players will occasionally eat dirt BECAUSE they are pushing that boundary. They're the ones that will get clipped by AOE pushing for an extra attack, or let the tank die because the heal came 0.1s too late, or not use a cooldown because they think they can take the hit -- and can't. Then they adjust, and ride that line, because they know exactly where it is, and pull off some amazing play.

While I agree with this message, I believe there should be a small stipulation added to please do not push this line when playing with random PuGs. There's always going to be a random factor associated with these players. The players discussed by Viviza are those who are comfortable playing with zero safety net and do so constantly with their static and/or friends. You'll always want some form of safety net involved when partied with random players.

That wasn't me. Please direct your comment elsewhere :P

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*Waves target flag this way* Sorry for the random barrage your way, Cynfael xD

[KisaiTenshi]

While I agree with this message, I believe there should be a small stipulation added to please do not push this line when playing with random PuGs. There's always going to be a random factor associated with these players. The players discussed by Viviza are those who are comfortable playing with zero safety net and do so constantly with their static and/or friends. You'll always want some form of safety net involved when partied with random players.

This is the point that is constantly missed... in damn near every thread.

Playing with a static is nothing like playing with PUG's. Every time you get a new PUG, you have to see where the limits are, and depending on your data center, you may end up with bad PUG's consistently enough. Playing with statics you already know where your static's limits are.

Like previously VanilleFang has said they play exclusively with PUG's like I do, but our experiences are completely different because I'm on the Primal center and a Legacy server and VanilleFang is on Aether and a non-legacy server.

Primal seems to consist of a lot of players that just want to faceroll or be carried. That again, has a lot to do with all the troll "gamer" communities taking up residence on Excalibur. So you just go into PUG's with that low expectation (which shows up all the time in 24-man labyrinth of trolls and world of derp) that half the party will ignore the mechanics. So it's infuriating to see healers full-time CS in those instances, like the CS is the "Super DPS mode", it's not. Instead of being an effective healer, you end up being a mediocre DPS and the main tank and everyone hates you. Use the CS when there is opportunity to DPS, not because you don't want to be a healer.

[VanilleFang]

data centres

Yeah. I can see this leading to healers viewing situation very differently. For me I may feel comfortable in CS where in a similar situation you would not.

It's good in a way that FFXIV is like this. But also kind of bad. Good in the way that you get a lot of different points of view and tips on a single scenario, but it's also bad because some strategies that work for me may not work for you. It can also make a bit of a messy argument at times.

I realize that may tips and playstyle may not be the best for every data centre, but it can be hard to look outside my own little world. lol

[Spoekes]

Datacenters/PUG

I do not believe that Datacenters are the issue here and we seem all to PUG a lot.
It sounds like a far-fetched argument saying the whole datacenter is the issue, when the most common factor in every group is that you take the healer role.

I don't want to attack you but if it smells everywhere you go maybe you should check your own shoes.

[firstsin]

I really like how majority of us WHM have discovered the same way of stance dancing and spamming holy while keeping the tank alive.

[MXMoondoggie]

I really like how majority of us WHM have discovered the same way of stance dancing and spamming holy while keeping the tank alive.

I imagine most people will experiment on the first pull to see what is happening then adjust from there. Normally I'll push it early on just to see how the Tank reacts to low HP if they panic i know they are maybe not confident so I'll play it a bit more safe. If i see them lowering damage on themselves and not reacting to low HP i know they will be fine for me to last second heal them. You can also get some idea of how many holys you can pull off before they will need a heal.

[Classikal]

As thing go atm, I tend to be a bit more liberal with Divine Seal than Eye for an eye, since the recast is much shorter. Only really use Eye for an Eye for bigger pulls. Just started Qarn(Hard) and it's pretty fun.

Bosses though, I hold back a bit. I just AoE the adds on the 1st two, and and pull back and hold a defensive position on the last boss.

[Yumi_umi]

That wasn't me. Please direct your comment elsewhere :P

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Oops my bad lol nvm its @ gish
Could have sworn i saw it under ur id but must be on my fault.