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    AzraelX's Avatar
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    Irvin Izanagi
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    Any new new in NIN's positional so?

    see above? My guess they adding them so we can do more damage by prositionals due to mudras being so unreliable at times. Sometimes I want to do Hutton.. End up doing fumarole or raton- do freaking annoying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AzraelX View Post
    see above? My guess they adding them so we can do more damage by prositionals due to mudras being so unreliable at times. Sometimes I want to do Hutton.. End up doing fumarole or raton- do freaking annoying.
    Yes, they are still planning on adding positionals to a number of our weaponskills. How many, which ones? No one knows cept' SE.
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    I'm scared.

    I wish SE would tell us which skills/how many skills are getting them so I can know if it's time to hang up my daggers. Not knowing is the scariest thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    I'm scared.

    I wish SE would tell us which skills/how many skills are getting them so I can know if it's time to hang up my daggers. Not knowing is the scariest thing.
    Positionals certainly haven't killed Monks ... Sincerely doubt adding a Flank req to a couple of NIN skills will cause a mass exodus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    Positionals certainly haven't killed Monks ... Sincerely doubt adding a Flank req to a couple of NIN skills will cause a mass exodus.
    Monks have been a very positional job from the start, so obviously positionals won't kill it....positionals are part of what defines it. Just as the lack of positionals and increased difficulty elsewhere are part of what define ninja.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    Monks have been a very positional job from the start, so obviously positionals won't kill it....positionals are part of what defines it. Just as the lack of positionals and increased difficulty elsewhere are part of what define ninja.
    Except NIN did have positionals originally.

    They changed it to how it is now pretty quick, though for a while the tooltips reflected the Flanking/Rear requirement. And even the bizarre Sneak Attack from the front XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    Except NIN did have positionals originally.

    They changed it to how it is now pretty quick, though for a while the tooltips reflected the Flanking/Rear requirement. And even the bizarre Sneak Attack from the front XD
    Wrong the English translation had a mistake none of ninjas abilities had a positional requirement. That is neither here nor there though this topic was about if we knew what was getting positional we don't no need to turn this thread into another flame war between melees
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    Except NIN did have positionals originally.

    They changed it to how it is now pretty quick, though for a while the tooltips reflected the Flanking/Rear requirement. And even the bizarre Sneak Attack from the front XD
    I don't think that's correct. Please show me a link with proof that there were more positionals on NIN than sneak/trick attack. I did not start playing the job until after 2.5, so may not recall correctly.

    There is no reason for a NIN to use sneak attack over trick attack either. Why it's frontal anyways though, who knows. A ninja shouldn't be attacking anywhere but from behind if being stealthy, much less from the front.

    But while trick attack is positional, it in practice allows a NIN to not have to worry much about positioning, because the rear is the only place a NIN needs to focus on. So unless NINs had other positionals from the beginning, your point there is off.
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    Blue Thunder
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    Positionals certainly haven't killed Monks ... Sincerely doubt adding a Flank req to a couple of NIN skills will cause a mass exodus.
    Here's the thing: Monks don't have to deal with 20 sec recast Ninjutsus, which require manual input for maximum dps increase. Mudra lag already hinders those who suffer from it (quite a lot of players in fact).

    What have monks to deal with outside their GCDs? Nothing actually, hit your only 2 off gcd attacks when ready and that's it, easily done while dancing around the mob.

    Adding positionals to ninja can become a real stress when moving and managing mudras at the same time and meeting your positional hits for max dps output.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueThunder View Post
    Adding positionals to ninja can become a real stress when moving and managing mudras at the same time and meeting your positional hits for max dps output.
    It's a real stress if you haven't mastered the class. Once people get accustomed to the rotation then it will be faceroll per usual. If you can't handle positional stipulations on a class then maybe melee's just aren't for you.
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