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    Vlady's Avatar
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    Fomortis Vulen
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    As long as astrologian does not have the ability to dps as well as the white mage and sholar. It provides some pretty strong buffs and having two heal jobs that can dps pretty decent and a third healer that provides just support seems like a nice niche.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    As long as astrologian does not have the ability to dps as well as the white mage and sholar. It provides some pretty strong buffs and having two heal jobs that can dps pretty decent and a third healer that provides just support seems like a nice niche.
    AST has dps abilities and access to Cleric stance. We will very likely see them putting out decent dps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    AST has dps abilities and access to Cleric stance. We will very likely see them putting out decent dps.
    I think they'll do none in raid scenarios. I think the cards are compensation for their reportedly awful dps capability. Rather than doing dps of their own, they add to the rest of the party's. Spare GCDs not used for healing would be used on drawing cards, not doing dps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkimi View Post
    I think they'll do none in raid scenarios. I think the cards are compensation for their reportedly awful dps capability. Rather than doing dps of their own, they add to the rest of the party's. Spare GCDs not used for healing would be used on drawing cards, not doing dps.
    Card Draws are on a 30s cd.

    Its DPS/Heal stancing will play very much how WHM/SCH currently does, but yeah, their raw DPS capabilities are probably lower than WHM & SCH as their Cards will increase the parties overall DPS a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SongJoohee View Post
    Card Draws are on a 30s cd.

    Its DPS/Heal stancing will play very much how WHM/SCH currently does, but yeah, their raw DPS capabilities are probably lower than WHM & SCH as their Cards will increase the parties overall DPS a lot.
    My bad, got some misinformation there then. I thought having Draw on the GCD would be a bit hectic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SongJoohee View Post
    Card Draws are on a 30s cd.

    Its DPS/Heal stancing will play very much how WHM/SCH currently does, but yeah, their raw DPS capabilities are probably lower than WHM & SCH as their Cards will increase the parties overall DPS a lot.
    Still, just like any healer, people will come to use their dps functions to perform in raid content. Whatever dps they offer is going to be more than if they didn't. Nothing requires healers to dps, but as long as they have the ability to, players raiding are going to use them.
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    Adore Mi
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    AST sounds amazing to me. I love the two stances and love the thought of adding utility to everyone else's DPS. That's quite different than what I'm used to playing WHM and SCH.
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    Player : フェアリーのミラプリも作ってるんですか?
    (Any plan on Fairies glamour?)
    Yoshi'p Sampo: フェアリーはエギではないので、予定がないです。残念ながら。
    (Since Fairies aren't Egi so, No.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    AST sounds amazing to me. I love the two stances and love the thought of adding utility to everyone else's DPS. That's quite different than what I'm used to playing WHM and SCH.
    This is something I wanted to see from BRD from the very start.
    I'm excited for this new Job you don't even know.
    Plus I'm a huge Tarot/Fortune/Astrology fan so this is up my ally!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mugiawara View Post
    This is something I wanted to see from BRD from the very start.
    I'm excited for this new Job you don't even know.
    Plus I'm a huge Tarot/Fortune/Astrology fan so this is up my ally!
    Just hope it doesn't have negative effects on the metagame. While it may not happen, I can see raids doing silly things like sitting either WHM or SCH in favor of AST for the buffs or stacking ASTs if the buffs can be overlapped. That sort of thing tends to trickle down (much like the WAR thing at launch where I met WARs that told me they couldn't tank HM primals even though turn4 of coil was the problem).
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Irvin Izanagi
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    Samurai Lv 80
    I think AST and BARD are people's answers to a support class esp. AST
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