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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_Burrito View Post
    Will sync'ing to the lowest level provide extra rewards (achieves, loot)? I'm having a hard time picturing why anyone would want to do so, unless some incentive is provided.
    Probably not. When you have people with complaints about content nerfs and how they appreciate more difficult content, this beats them to any argument.
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    Last edited by Nikita; 05-30-2015 at 03:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikita View Post
    Probably not. When you have people with complaints about content nerfs and how they appreciate more difficult content, this beats them to any argument.
    Lol, the people that complain about content nerfs will be taking the path of least resistance just like the "filthy" casuals do.

    This will be nice for me to finally get a baby opo-opo and Mummy's little Mummy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yuri_Hyuga View Post
    A special mount for completing all past content on lowest sync would be epic!!!
    *shrug*

    This is something that most players already did when dungeons were new. Not exactly something special.
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    Last edited by Gilthas; 05-30-2015 at 04:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    Greetings,

    Just for clarification, using this system will not remove the item drops, therefore you can use this feature to obtain minions, equipment for glamour, and the items needed to upgrade Zodiac weapons.

    Additionally, there is no item level sync, so you'll be able to enter content at the highest level and item level.

    On the other hand, if you are looking for more of a challenge, then you can use another feature which will sync to the lowest level set for that duty.

    The development team is looking forward to seeing how everyone will use these new feature to create your own unique challenges and group events. They plan on using what they see as reference for future development.
    So let me guess this straight, there is a level sync on all ARR content but no item level sync, or no level sync as well, because... I'd REALLY like to be able to get through t12 so i can finally get to t13...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasott View Post
    So let me guess this straight, there is a level sync on all ARR content but no item level sync, or no level sync as well, because... I'd REALLY like to be able to get through t12 so i can finally get to t13...
    Does that mean CT, Trials, and BCoB will be like this too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    Does that mean CT, Trials, and BCoB will be like this too?
    I think this just applies to dungeons not to the raids (Coils, WoD, etc); However, there is no clarification about that. I would definitely like more information about this being available or not in the raid dungeons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    Greetings,

    Just for clarification, using this system will not remove the item drops, therefore you can use this feature to obtain minions, equipment for glamour, and the items needed to upgrade Zodiac weapons.

    Additionally, there is no item level sync, so you'll be able to enter content at the highest level and item level.

    On the other hand, if you are looking for more of a challenge, then you can use another feature which will sync to the lowest level set for that duty.

    The development team is looking forward to seeing how everyone will use these new feature to create your own unique challenges and group events. They plan on using what they see as reference for future development.
    Honestly if this is true I would say you shouldn't need to further nerf Relic content. What made relic content hard for the most part was the level restriction to a majority of the dungeons but by removing that you pretty much remove 90% of what made it tedious, to go through dungeons at a lower level and hoping for x item to drop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    by removing that you pretty much remove 90% of what made it tedious
    Making relics less tedious is something that should have been done long ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    Greetings,

    Just for clarification, using this system will not remove the item drops, therefore you can use this feature to obtain minions, equipment for glamour, and the items needed to upgrade Zodiac weapons.

    Additionally, there is no item level sync, so you'll be able to enter content at the highest level and item level.

    On the other hand, if you are looking for more of a challenge, then you can use another feature which will sync to the lowest level set for that duty.

    The development team is looking forward to seeing how everyone will use these new feature to create your own unique challenges and group events. They plan on using what they see as reference for future development.
    Finally! Thank you! While soloing isn't exactly the main attraction for MMORPGs, as someone who has played the genre a lot from 2003, the ability for players to find their own (solo) challenges has always been an attractive means to enjoy ourselves. It's sort of like why people (including myself) bother to solo dungeons now, such as Cutter's Cry, Haukke Manor, Snowcloak, etc. Can't solo it as your current class/job? Try another that might do it. Enlist the help of one more person if required. I actually really hope to see this be made for Heavensward content as they remain somewhat relevant to whatever current content is at the time. As in, maybe by the time 3.3 content hits, 3.0 will be made easily available to be attempted with less than otherwise required number of members. Even if only a few players might be able to do it, the ingenuity used tends to be quite an eye opener when people set a goal that is otherwise unheard of (similar those solo vids of difficult older raid bosses from games like WoW).

    There's one question I have though on this. Will this mean we can bring in lower level players to essentially powerlevel them or does exp take a significant hit (as in nothing at all, if not next to nothing)?
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    Last edited by Welsper59; 05-30-2015 at 04:01 AM.

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    Darius Cole
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    Greetings,

    Just for clarification, using this system will not remove the item drops, therefore you can use this feature to obtain minions, equipment for glamour, and the items needed to upgrade Zodiac weapons.

    Additionally, there is no item level sync, so you'll be able to enter content at the highest level and item level.

    On the other hand, if you are looking for more of a challenge, then you can use another feature which will sync to the lowest level set for that duty.

    The development team is looking forward to seeing how everyone will use these new feature to create your own unique challenges and group events. They plan on using what they see as reference for future development.
    Players Need Incentive!!! I cannot stress that enough. The majority of the playerbase will not opt to level syncing if the gain is the same as doing it with max lvl/ilvl... The "challenge" for the sake of a "challenge" is not enough. With overcoming a challenge, players want to see the fruits of their labor rewarded. No one cares about bragging rights. You might as well not even implement the lvl sync feature...
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    Last edited by TAS; 05-30-2015 at 04:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAS View Post
    Players Need Incentive!!! I cannot stress that enough. The majority of the playerbase will not opt to level syncing if the gain is the same as doing it with max lvl/ilvl... The "challenge" for the sake of a "challenge" is not enough. With overcoming a challenge, players want to see the fruits of their labor rewarded. No one cares about bragging rights. You might as well not even implement the lvl sync feature...
    Players don't need incentive. This is old content. If you want a challenge, there is a plethora of new content. The only reason they're even keeping the level sync as an option is for people who whine about nerfs.

    What bragging rights could you possibly get out of these dungeons other than having run them when they were fresh? They're not hard to begin with. People need to get a grip, seriously.
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