DPS is too slow guys! (OMG!!!)

[Souljacker]

Sorry, I would argue that, to any new player, everything is new content for them regardles on how long it has been available, and they shouldn't have to put up with impatient people pushing them through cut scenes, dungeons, raids, etc.
I personally am not prejudiced against anyone learning through DF, especially if they aren't in an FC or LS and have no friends to help them through the content.
Unfortunately it seems that there are a lot more impatient people out there that want to just push on through all the content with little regard for those that want to enjoy the game on their own terms.
Luckily most FC's on my server prides themselves on helping out instead of pushing through, thinking of the team instead of just themselves.

But you just illustrated my point precisely. "New to you" isn't the same as "New" - if the resources are there why not glance at them and save yourself and 7 other people some grief? If you want to go into blind then by all means put together a party for that in PF because that's what it's there for - like minded people to build party with like-minded players. It doesn't necessarily belong in the Duty Finder at this stage in content. There's a reason Coils didn't get put immediately into the DF.

This has nothing at all to do with being "impatient" or just "thinking of themselves". I help those who help themselves. Make even a minimal effort and it goes really far with a lot of people. Put in no effort and you just look lazy or trollish.

[CerberusAngel]

But you just illustrated my point precisely. "New to you" isn't the same as "New" - if the resources are there why not glance at them and save yourself and 7 other people some grief? If you want to go into blind then by all means put together a party for that in PF because that's what it's there for - like minded people to build party with like-minded players. It doesn't necessarily belong in the Duty Finder at this stage in content. There's a reason Coils didn't get put immediately into the DF.

This has nothing at all to do with being "impatient" or just "thinking of themselves". I help those who help themselves. Make even a minimal effort and it goes really far with a lot of people. Put in no effort and you just look lazy or trollish.

New is still new no matter what way you say it. As a new player being only 3 months in those guides or vidoes don't help me one bit if I have no clue how the dungeon works.

[CerberusAngel]

I have been mad rushed thru DF stuff just cause uppers are doing roulette how is that fair to me? I can't learn wtf I am supposed to do in a fight if it's just well lets hurry so I can get outta here. And 9/10 times that's exactly what happens. You wanna take 2 secs give me a piece of advice and then say hey now that you've ran it looking at boss video may help. I get that, I tried it with Titan and failed miserably cause the person on the video had it wrong. So telling someone to go read something or watch something when they don't have a clue what they are looking for may just make it worse, it did for me.

[FrejyaAthenes]

New is still new no matter what way you say it. As a new player being only 3 months in those guides or vidoes don't help me one bit if I have no clue how the dungeon works.

No one sane will tell you that watching/reading a guide will always equal a flawless victory here, it's just better to go into a fight with some knowledge rather than none. There is literally no negative concequence to utilizing information that's been made available.