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    Miste's Avatar
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    Miste Vaer
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    Excalibur
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by synesthetic View Post
    If their weapon's iLv is like.. 20 levels lower, versus DPS on their A-game, then... maybe? There's no reason they shouldn't have a weapon within 10-15 of everyone else though.

    At worst, they should only risk losing aggro at the start. Even with a modestly smaller weapon and a full VIT build, tanks generate enmity at a much faster rate than anyone else.
    Reminds of the times I load into some old dungeons like AK or Copperbell Hard etc and getting a tank in an i48-i50 weapon....lets just say my BLM ends up tanking...and well it isn't like its the tank's fault, SE lets them queue so its kinda like how would you know you can't do your job in there until you load in with dps with i110 sync weapons.

    SE should probably address that problem. I'd hate to be a new tank trying to do my job properly and literally being unable to no matter how well I knew the job...I mean some jobs don't even have quelling but even if I used it; it only staved off hate for a few extra seconds. I ended up tanking all the bosses in there too as a BLM swapping sometimes with the MNK cause my casts would get interrupted.. It wasn't too bad but I think it gives more problems to the healer..
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    Rihael Eden
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    Hyperion
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    Reminds of the times I load into some old dungeons like AK or Copperbell Hard etc and getting a tank in an i48-i50 weapon....lets just say my BLM ends up tanking...and well it isn't like its the tank's fault, SE lets them queue so its kinda like how would you know you can't do your job in there until you load in with dps with i110 sync weapons.

    SE should probably address that problem. I'd hate to be a new tank trying to do my job properly and literally being unable to no matter how well I knew the job...I mean some jobs don't even have quelling but even if I used it; it only staved off hate for a few extra seconds. I ended up tanking all the bosses in there too as a BLM swapping sometimes with the MNK cause my casts would get interrupted.. It wasn't too bad but I think it gives more problems to the healer..
    Oh my gawd, yes. It's stuff like that that makes me wish that iLv or something in the game would subtly teach people how important it is to upgrade their weapons first and foremost.

    Back when Titan-HM was like.. the hardest content we had, and people would spam CM, I had a PLD friend who got so mad that he'd always lose hate on adds, and he concluded that Flash was useless. So he stopped bothering. And stopped liking tanking. It wasn't until maybe a month later that we all pieced together how much weapons mattered over armor and accessories, for all roles, and how claiming and bonus enmity work.
    And even like half a year later, we had trouble convincing that friend that Flash is -not- useless because of how frustrating tanking was for him due to having a small weapon.
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    Nezm Marinr
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    Cerberus
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Positive reinforcement works just as well, when we were on T12 we could of really done with hitting 4 Bennus but were a couple of % short. With reminders throughout P2 [keep pushing dps on the boss guys] we managed fine.

    Saying as such though - we recognize during 'training' there is a natural dps shortage. Before you all move to mechanics in auto mode and deal with them the same every single time your DPS won't be the best it can be - DF, or PF groups will also have a naturally lower DPS than a static because they are not hitting everything at the exact same time in the exact same way they have learnt to maximize their dps.
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Odin
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by synesthetic View Post
    And even like half a year later, we had trouble convincing that friend that Flash is -not- useless because of how frustrating tanking was for him due to having a small weapon.
    You need a big weapon to flash effectively.... Giggity!
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