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  1. #11
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    Elusana_Celah's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eye_Gore View Post
    Well at least I'll know who to vote kick if we cross paths.
    Sorry to hear that. But I don't duty finder difficult content because people on NA servers use DF to 'learn'. I specifically use party finder, say it's a clear or farm and expect people to be ready for it. Taking criticism is part of this. I'm not someone who immediately kicks someone cuz they made a mistake. I always give people a chance to fix the issues and try to do better, but if people don't want to own up to their mistakes and want to get defensive well it's just disrespectful and holding all of us back.

    If it makes me a big meanie head then I guess I am whatever lol.
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    Rubieus Amrita
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaHoshino View Post
    Even in most of the EX Primals and Second Coil, adequate DPS can be achieved with just a half-decent rotation. So either the DPS are REALLY bad or OP is talking about Final Coil, where you need to bring your A game as a DPS.
    Again, in a perfect world...

    But regardless of any constructive criticism. DF is not the place to have an opinion. If E'Lusana was in a PF or in a FC then I would agree with that kind of encouragement. But they did not state where or when this happened. So my best assumption was in DF, probably in Extreme or an Expert Tier dungeon.
    In which case, it's best to keep happy vibes and keep encouraging positive outcomes. Telling someone how to do their job (even if they suck) won't help. (Usually doesn't) Unless they asked for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    ガンブレード!吉田も欲しいです!
    うん、銃は夢があるし、ガンブレードもFFらしいですよね

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elusana_Celah View Post
    Sorry to hear that. But I don't duty finder difficult content because people on NA servers use DF to 'learn'. I specifically use party finder, say it's a clear or farm and expect people to be ready for it. Taking criticism is part of this. I'm not someone who immediately kicks someone cuz they made a mistake. I always give people a chance to fix the issues and try to do better, but if people don't want to own up to their mistakes and want to get defensive well it's just disrespectful and holding all of us back.

    If it makes me a big meanie head then I guess I am whatever lol.
    You should have said this in your first post. It would have cleared up alot of assumptions. Mine included. (see above post)

    I totally agree with this. PF and FC should know their stuff. If they don't they should accept any help they get. *nods* I get told my dps is less than our MNK's all the time. _-_ I will beat him one day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    ガンブレード!吉田も欲しいです!
    うん、銃は夢があるし、ガンブレードもFFらしいですよね

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    Yeah, because we all know that tanks are always nice and polite, and apologize for their mistakes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riepah View Post
    Yeah, because we all know that tanks are always nice and polite, and apologize for their mistakes...
    Um yeah, all tanks are supes nice. o.O /sarcasm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    ガンブレード!吉田も欲しいです!
    うん、銃は夢があるし、ガンブレードもFFらしいですよね

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riepah View Post
    Yeah, because we all know that tanks are always nice and polite, and apologize for their mistakes...
    Don't forget the healers that turn on Cleric Stance, leave it on, and just DPS all day without paying any attention to the HP bars of the team. Oh, and the ones that get whiny too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TruebladeNuke View Post
    Don't forget the healers that turn on Cleric Stance, leave it on, and just DPS all day without paying any attention to the HP bars of the team. Oh, and the ones that get whiny too.
    There's only one healer in this game, and her name is Selene.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaft View Post
    There's only one healer in this game, and her name is Selene.
    And soon she will be eaten for MP to fuel cleric stance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    And soon she will be eaten for MP to fuel cleric stance.
    Who will then be re-summoned just to be consumed again and again. That fairy just isn't going to be a fairy anymore when Heavensward comes around. :O
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubieus View Post
    You should have said this in your first post. It would have cleared up alot of assumptions. Mine included. (see above post)

    I totally agree with this. PF and FC should know their stuff. If they don't they should accept any help they get. *nods* I get told my dps is less than our MNK's all the time. _-_ I will beat him one day.
    Sometimes I derive amusement from watching people assume I'm a terrible person based on a simple and vague forum post. Generalization is pretty interesting :P

    In reality I only react in fair and reasonable ways and I never toss someone out for being human. I would prefer to inform people of their errors instead of just removing them because everyone deserves a chance to succeed in the content. I am also well known for jumping into people's learning parties or clear parties and trying to help them out. Today I wiped in someone's T9 clear party for 2 hours, we didn't clear but I still stayed there and tried my best to help including being their divebomb marker.

    I would love nothing more than to be able to tell people their shortcomings and they adjust and fix them instead of me having to kick them so we can actually clear or farm the content. When someone reacts defensively towards me I get very very mad and the reason for this forum post is to point out how it happens more with DPS than the other job roles (but it does happen with the other job roles too.)
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