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    Elusana_Celah's Avatar
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    DPS is too slow guys! (OMG!!!)

    "Healers didn't keep people up so we wiped." "Sorry I was a little slow there."

    "Tanks you gotta grab the adds." "Sorry it's my bad, won't happen again."

    "DPS why are we pushing phases so slow? It's creating more chaos for all of us when we aren't pushing phases properly. Also we're going to hit enrage." "WOW E'lusana you're a douche! OMG such an elitist wtf... never grouping with you again."
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    Well at least I'll know who to vote kick if we cross paths.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eye_Gore View Post
    Well at least I'll know who to vote kick if we cross paths.
    Sorry to hear that. But I don't duty finder difficult content because people on NA servers use DF to 'learn'. I specifically use party finder, say it's a clear or farm and expect people to be ready for it. Taking criticism is part of this. I'm not someone who immediately kicks someone cuz they made a mistake. I always give people a chance to fix the issues and try to do better, but if people don't want to own up to their mistakes and want to get defensive well it's just disrespectful and holding all of us back.

    If it makes me a big meanie head then I guess I am whatever lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elusana_Celah View Post
    Sorry to hear that. But I don't duty finder difficult content because people on NA servers use DF to 'learn'. I specifically use party finder, say it's a clear or farm and expect people to be ready for it. Taking criticism is part of this. I'm not someone who immediately kicks someone cuz they made a mistake. I always give people a chance to fix the issues and try to do better, but if people don't want to own up to their mistakes and want to get defensive well it's just disrespectful and holding all of us back.

    If it makes me a big meanie head then I guess I am whatever lol.
    You should have said this in your first post. It would have cleared up alot of assumptions. Mine included. (see above post)

    I totally agree with this. PF and FC should know their stuff. If they don't they should accept any help they get. *nods* I get told my dps is less than our MNK's all the time. _-_ I will beat him one day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    ガンブレード!吉田も欲しいです!
    うん、銃は夢があるし、ガンブレードもFFらしいですよね

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubieus View Post
    You should have said this in your first post. It would have cleared up alot of assumptions. Mine included. (see above post)

    I totally agree with this. PF and FC should know their stuff. If they don't they should accept any help they get. *nods* I get told my dps is less than our MNK's all the time. _-_ I will beat him one day.
    Sometimes I derive amusement from watching people assume I'm a terrible person based on a simple and vague forum post. Generalization is pretty interesting :P

    In reality I only react in fair and reasonable ways and I never toss someone out for being human. I would prefer to inform people of their errors instead of just removing them because everyone deserves a chance to succeed in the content. I am also well known for jumping into people's learning parties or clear parties and trying to help them out. Today I wiped in someone's T9 clear party for 2 hours, we didn't clear but I still stayed there and tried my best to help including being their divebomb marker.

    I would love nothing more than to be able to tell people their shortcomings and they adjust and fix them instead of me having to kick them so we can actually clear or farm the content. When someone reacts defensively towards me I get very very mad and the reason for this forum post is to point out how it happens more with DPS than the other job roles (but it does happen with the other job roles too.)
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    Luna Hoshino
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    I had a group in Levi Ex in DF the other day that failed the DPS check there. Three times in a row. Despite the tank telling everyone to DPS the adds as soon as they came up. (And these people were not badly geared, either-- everyone had over 5000 HP.)

    I did not even know it was possible to be THAT BAD but apparently it is.
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    The problem isn't their failure but in your way of dealing with it. Cheer them on, encourage them. I often use [Let's do it!] and cheer emote. I tank alot of coil in DF and most of the time it ends in failure. But if you cheer and encourage. You might be pleasantly surprised how much harder they try because they want to appease the Karma Gods. If it doesn't work, oh well, queue again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    ガンブレード!吉田も欲しいです!
    うん、銃は夢があるし、ガンブレードもFFらしいですよね

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubieus View Post
    The problem isn't their failure
    Actually the problem is in the failure. Informing people of a problem, in this case low DPS is usually an acceptable solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Massterchef View Post
    Actually the problem is in the failure. Informing people of a problem, in this case low DPS is usually an acceptable solution.
    In a perfect world, I would agree with you. But this is Eorzea, where people complain about Grass and kick you for watching cutscenes. As they say, When in Rome you do as Romans do. When in Eorzea, you keep your opinions to yourself, and just look forward to things. Like clearing, and not complaining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    ガンブレード!吉田も欲しいです!
    うん、銃は夢があるし、ガンブレードもFFらしいですよね

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