Never thought I would see dps queues faster then healer.

[Seku]

Snip.

Actually they were talking about adding it into raids, healer dps that is. They also are doing a lot to have healer's basicly auto heal so they can dps and if Pld's new move, where you heal them and everyone around gets a shield, is short on it's cool down, then you have that on pld too to further push for healers to DPS. While it's not something that will be "bare min" right now, it would appear they are heavily pushing for it.

[PetiteMalFleur]

Actually they were talking about adding it into raids, healer dps that is. They also are doing a lot to have healer's basicly auto heal so they can dps and if Pld's new move, where you heal them and everyone around gets a shield, is short on it's cool down, then you have that on pld too to further push for healers to DPS. While it's not something that will be "bare min" right now, it would appear they are heavily pushing for it.

Actually they said the opposite. They said healer dps will be needed to meet dps checks when trying to clear in lower than intended item level, just like FCoB, but they are NOT adding healer dps in to their dps calculations.

[Cynfael]

Eh...I really don't like the whole "healers need to dps thing" I do it since I want to optimize my class but it hasn't been something I ever really enjoyed. Disappointed to hear that they commented on implementing this more =/

Do you need to learn how to DPS as healer to optimize your class? Yes.

Are DPS clear minimums currently set with the assumption of healer DPS? No.

[LycorisSelunis]

In terms of difficulty, they already mentioned that healer dps would be considered when balancing the dps checks in alexander savage, so it might be more challenging in the future. This might also be the reason why whm got so many new ways to dps (although granted most groups will likely just wait till they are overgeared and the checks can be met without healer dps).

They have said exactly NOT that. http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/125...-Event-5-19%29
DPS calculation includes dps and tanks at an intended ilvl. If you are clearing below that ilvl in the vein of world-first, your healers are probably going to have to dps then. But the encounters are NOT balanced on that.

[ChaozK]

They have said exactly NOT that. http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/125...-Event-5-19%29
DPS calculation includes dps and tanks at an intended ilvl. If you are clearing below that ilvl in the vein of world-first, your healers are probably going to have to dps then. But the encounters are NOT balanced on that.

The post you are quoting was written prior to the release of that link.
Earlier translations were actually directly contradicting this bit:

"They increased the offensive power of the WHM, not because they want them to be real DPS but because they first didn't expect the players to have the healers DPS in coil, they were surprised to see the top parties do that and they changed their plan. When they do the new raid they now take healer dps into consideration, that will be a major difference between alexander normal and hard, in the normal mode dps check they don't take into account the healers' damages."

So there are conflicting informations about how they handle healer dps in heavensward. I am more inclined to believe the more recent link you posted though.

[Yona87]

Try to que as dps right now, some are instant.

[Mutemutt]

To be honest, I find the DPS role to more difficult in the raids usually.

[Galdous]

Lol. You are saying that whack a mole watch hp is harder then optimal rotations and tanking? Minus maybe bard and black mage dps is way harder then healing. Most statics beat mechanics based on gearing tanks and dps. Healers can perform better in lesser gear then dps and tanks.

Healing is actually the easiest role in the game. As you said you was in a snore fest tanking during your last raid run but that is only because you are 6+ months into master and overgearing the raid by now but healing is extremely newbie friendly. You do not have to master rotations and proper timing of when to try to push for that extra combo in flank or back positions as a monk. All you really have to do is watch hp via whack a mole mechanics and just make the boss a focus and know when to prep for scripted patterns. Only thing even partially scary to worry about as a healer is Bahamut prime Akh Morn tearing your raid apart.

[Cynfael]

Lol. You are saying that whack a mole watch hp is harder then optimal rotations and tanking? Minus maybe bard and black mage dps is way harder then healing. Most statics beat mechanics based on gearing tanks and dps. Healers can perform better in lesser gear then dps and tanks.

Good healers don't play whack-a-mole; or rather, they know in advance which moles will need whacking and are pulling double duty as DPS while also maintaining awareness of everyone else's performance and mistakes.

If you break down each role in simplistic terms, they all sound mind-numbingly easy (DPS rotations come down to "if A, then B except when X occurs, then C, etc. etc.". Frankly, all content in the game can become this way once you've sufficiently drilled the choreography.

As for tanks, most tanks I play with find the role rather boring except when content is relatively new to them. I think the only turn during which my main Coil group's tanks are actually close to awake is T12 since they need to stop napping long enough to pass brands once in a while and stand in the fountain.

[Vlady]

When you cannot properly counter argue fall back on character assassination. Works every time. Healing is the easiest role in the game. Regardless of how you define whack a mole healing all you are doing is watching a hp bar go down and use a few basic buttons that make 1 to multiple bars go back up. You might time it to be .5 seconds after an enemy aoe fires off but it is still whack a mole mechanics that hail from the earliest days of online gaming.. Healing has not evolved any like other roles cept maybe tanking has.